Transporter Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 What about Tandems with disk brakes at Argus and Cycle Challenge?
Frosty Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 I know that. I also know that it could have been "legalised" by CSA for non-racing but lisence paying riders long ago.There is no such thing as "non-racing but licence paying riders". A licence is a FULL RACING LICENCE and riders enter their age category, i.e. VA, VB, VC, etc. Only the tjops that buy a licence to get an early start time are non-racing. CSA Membership is for the paying rider you refer to, but it's not a "licence"... these are the open seeded, aka alphabet soup riders. Mass participants that fall under the UCI "Cycling for fun" category. Day licences are issued to cyclists that don't have a CSA Membership, and again is not a "licence". It's only the "Full Racing Licencees" that are supposed to be subject to the UCI rules. The "Cycling for All" category has it's own set of rules, although many of their rules overlap with the UCI licence holders. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk TALUS, Cargyrl, RossW and 1 other 4
TALUS Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 There is no such thing as "non-racing but licence paying riders".A licence is a FULL RACING LICENCE and riders enter their age category, i.e. VA, VB, VC, etc. Only the tjops that buy a licence to get an early start time are non-racing.CSA Membership is for the paying rider you refer to, but it's not a "licence"... these are the open seeded, aka alphabet soup riders. Mass participants that fall under the UCI "Cycling for fun" category. Day licences are issued to cyclists that don't have a CSA Membership, and again is not a "licence".It's only the "Full Racing Licencees" that are supposed to be subject to the UCI rules. The "Cycling for All" category has it's own set of rules, although many of their rules overlap with the UCI licence holders.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThx for the clarification. What a meant to say is "paying for something but non-racing/non-prize winning/ bulk of income" cyclist. Frosty 1
Spinnekop Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 There is no such thing as "non-racing but licence paying riders". A licence is a FULL RACING LICENCE and riders enter their age category, i.e. VA, VB, VC, etc. Only the tjops that buy a licence to get an early start time are non-racing. CSA Membership is for the paying rider you refer to, but it's not a "licence"... these are the open seeded, aka alphabet soup riders. Mass participants that fall under the UCI "Cycling for fun" category. Day licences are issued to cyclists that don't have a CSA Membership, and again is not a "licence". It's only the "Full Racing Licencees" that are supposed to be subject to the UCI rules. The "Cycling for All" category has it's own set of rules, although many of their rules overlap with the UCI licence holders. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJip. People get confused with "licenced" and "membership".All schemes off coarse to milk us for money. In a perfect world.....Professional athletes need to licence. Their governing body looks after them and their interest. The rest of us then partake in events under a seeding system according to ability and get bragging rights winning your bunch. Cargyrl, Pure Savage and Frosty 3
Patchelicious Posted July 17, 2017 Author Posted July 17, 2017 Regardless of the difinition of riders memberships/license etc. This is all due to incompetence, it wasn't thought through. Unless they get some competent people on board, this will never get better and this thread will become bigger than the "I have an idea....." Wannabe, ians H2Sport and TALUS 3
Spinnekop Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 Regardless of the difinition of riders memberships/license etc. This is all due to incompetence, it wasn't thought through. Unless they get some competent people on board, this will never get better and this thread will become bigger than the "I have an idea....."agreed So what is the "working" solution?And who is the correct person / body to implement this? Create a "racing association" where all race organisers join together and create a body governing all based on UCI rules? Patchelicious 1
TALUS Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 agreed So what is the "working" solution?And who is the correct person / body to implement this? Create a "racing association" where all race organisers join together and create a body governing all based on UCI rules?IF the politicians don't interfere. Maybe get PPA input as interim measure - at least they have proven ability to generate some money and organize races. Ex pros to guide development? Spinnekop 1
ians H2Sport Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 agreed So what is the "working" solution? And who is the correct person / body to implement this? Create a "racing association" where all race organisers join together and create a body governing all based on UCI rules?..... with competent people in place who are held accountable for their actions.
Tristand Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 How does one get elected to the board of CSA seeing as there are no shareholders? Section 21?Can someone explain this?
Spinnekop Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 Elected via provinces. Patchelicious and Tristand 2
Transporter Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 There is no such thing as "non-racing but licence paying riders". A licence is a FULL RACING LICENCE and riders enter their age category, i.e. VA, VB, VC, etc. Only the tjops that buy a licence to get an early start time are non-racing. CSA Membership is for the paying rider you refer to, but it's not a "licence"... these are the open seeded, aka alphabet soup riders. Mass participants that fall under the UCI "Cycling for fun" category. Day licences are issued to cyclists that don't have a CSA Membership, and again is not a "licence". It's only the "Full Racing Licencees" that are supposed to be subject to the UCI rules. The "Cycling for All" category has it's own set of rules, although many of their rules overlap with the UCI licence holders. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCycling for all must also take out a day license.
Patchelicious Posted July 17, 2017 Author Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) IF the politicians don't interfere. Maybe get PPA input as interim measure - at least they have proven ability to generate some money and organize races. Ex pros to guide development?With one Rob at PPA and the other at CSA and their well documented love for each other, I'm wondering if inter association synergy would improve? I hope so, PPA and CSA both need each other more than they would like to admit. Edited July 17, 2017 by Patchelicious Frosty, TALUS and City Cycling Athletic Club 3
Pure Savage Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 With one Rob at PPA and the other at CSA and their well documented love for each other, I'm wondering if inter association sysnergy might would improve? I hope so, PPA and CSA both need each other more than they would like to admit.You got some Pure Savage spelling going on there Patch!
Pure Savage Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 With one Rob at PPA and the other at CSA and their well documented love for each other, I'm wondering if inter association sysnergy might would improve? I hope so, PPA and CSA both need each other more than they would like to admit.PPA needs CSA like we need our appendix.
Patchelicious Posted July 17, 2017 Author Posted July 17, 2017 PPA needs CSA like we need our appendix.As fun as that sounds, they need the sanctioning.
Patchelicious Posted July 17, 2017 Author Posted July 17, 2017 You got some Pure Savage spelling going on there Patch!Lol, on phone in coffee shop, talking and hubbing...
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