Transporter Posted July 17, 2017 Share What about Tandems with disk brakes at Argus and Cycle Challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 17, 2017 Share I know that. I also know that it could have been "legalised" by CSA for non-racing but lisence paying riders long ago.There is no such thing as "non-racing but licence paying riders". A licence is a FULL RACING LICENCE and riders enter their age category, i.e. VA, VB, VC, etc. Only the tjops that buy a licence to get an early start time are non-racing. CSA Membership is for the paying rider you refer to, but it's not a "licence"... these are the open seeded, aka alphabet soup riders. Mass participants that fall under the UCI "Cycling for fun" category. Day licences are issued to cyclists that don't have a CSA Membership, and again is not a "licence". It's only the "Full Racing Licencees" that are supposed to be subject to the UCI rules. The "Cycling for All" category has it's own set of rules, although many of their rules overlap with the UCI licence holders. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Spinnekop, TALUS, RossW and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALUS Posted July 17, 2017 Share There is no such thing as "non-racing but licence paying riders".A licence is a FULL RACING LICENCE and riders enter their age category, i.e. VA, VB, VC, etc. Only the tjops that buy a licence to get an early start time are non-racing.CSA Membership is for the paying rider you refer to, but it's not a "licence"... these are the open seeded, aka alphabet soup riders. Mass participants that fall under the UCI "Cycling for fun" category. Day licences are issued to cyclists that don't have a CSA Membership, and again is not a "licence".It's only the "Full Racing Licencees" that are supposed to be subject to the UCI rules. The "Cycling for All" category has it's own set of rules, although many of their rules overlap with the UCI licence holders.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThx for the clarification. What a meant to say is "paying for something but non-racing/non-prize winning/ bulk of income" cyclist. Frosty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted July 17, 2017 Share There is no such thing as "non-racing but licence paying riders". A licence is a FULL RACING LICENCE and riders enter their age category, i.e. VA, VB, VC, etc. Only the tjops that buy a licence to get an early start time are non-racing. CSA Membership is for the paying rider you refer to, but it's not a "licence"... these are the open seeded, aka alphabet soup riders. Mass participants that fall under the UCI "Cycling for fun" category. Day licences are issued to cyclists that don't have a CSA Membership, and again is not a "licence". It's only the "Full Racing Licencees" that are supposed to be subject to the UCI rules. The "Cycling for All" category has it's own set of rules, although many of their rules overlap with the UCI licence holders. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJip. People get confused with "licenced" and "membership".All schemes off coarse to milk us for money. In a perfect world.....Professional athletes need to licence. Their governing body looks after them and their interest. The rest of us then partake in events under a seeding system according to ability and get bragging rights winning your bunch. Pure Savage, Cargyrl and Frosty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted July 17, 2017 Share Regardless of the difinition of riders memberships/license etc. This is all due to incompetence, it wasn't thought through. Unless they get some competent people on board, this will never get better and this thread will become bigger than the "I have an idea....." TALUS, Wannabe and ians H2Sport 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted July 17, 2017 Share Regardless of the difinition of riders memberships/license etc. This is all due to incompetence, it wasn't thought through. Unless they get some competent people on board, this will never get better and this thread will become bigger than the "I have an idea....."agreed So what is the "working" solution?And who is the correct person / body to implement this? Create a "racing association" where all race organisers join together and create a body governing all based on UCI rules? Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALUS Posted July 17, 2017 Share agreed So what is the "working" solution?And who is the correct person / body to implement this? Create a "racing association" where all race organisers join together and create a body governing all based on UCI rules?IF the politicians don't interfere. Maybe get PPA input as interim measure - at least they have proven ability to generate some money and organize races. Ex pros to guide development? Spinnekop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ians H2Sport Posted July 17, 2017 Share agreed So what is the "working" solution? And who is the correct person / body to implement this? Create a "racing association" where all race organisers join together and create a body governing all based on UCI rules?..... with competent people in place who are held accountable for their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristand Posted July 17, 2017 Share How does one get elected to the board of CSA seeing as there are no shareholders? Section 21?Can someone explain this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted July 17, 2017 Share Elected via provinces. Tristand and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transporter Posted July 17, 2017 Share There is no such thing as "non-racing but licence paying riders". A licence is a FULL RACING LICENCE and riders enter their age category, i.e. VA, VB, VC, etc. Only the tjops that buy a licence to get an early start time are non-racing. CSA Membership is for the paying rider you refer to, but it's not a "licence"... these are the open seeded, aka alphabet soup riders. Mass participants that fall under the UCI "Cycling for fun" category. Day licences are issued to cyclists that don't have a CSA Membership, and again is not a "licence". It's only the "Full Racing Licencees" that are supposed to be subject to the UCI rules. The "Cycling for All" category has it's own set of rules, although many of their rules overlap with the UCI licence holders. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCycling for all must also take out a day license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted July 17, 2017 Share IF the politicians don't interfere. Maybe get PPA input as interim measure - at least they have proven ability to generate some money and organize races. Ex pros to guide development?With one Rob at PPA and the other at CSA and their well documented love for each other, I'm wondering if inter association synergy would improve? I hope so, PPA and CSA both need each other more than they would like to admit. Edited July 17, 2017 by Patchelicious TALUS, City Cycling Athletic Club and Frosty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted July 17, 2017 Share With one Rob at PPA and the other at CSA and their well documented love for each other, I'm wondering if inter association sysnergy might would improve? I hope so, PPA and CSA both need each other more than they would like to admit.You got some Pure Savage spelling going on there Patch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted July 17, 2017 Share With one Rob at PPA and the other at CSA and their well documented love for each other, I'm wondering if inter association sysnergy might would improve? I hope so, PPA and CSA both need each other more than they would like to admit.PPA needs CSA like we need our appendix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted July 17, 2017 Share PPA needs CSA like we need our appendix.As fun as that sounds, they need the sanctioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted July 17, 2017 Share You got some Pure Savage spelling going on there Patch!Lol, on phone in coffee shop, talking and hubbing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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