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[T-Bob]

Waiting for Jaco to come in as he is out this morning .... he will call me back.

 

You replying to yourself now and it also looks like you're buying 2 bikes with yourself as well. 

[Hairy]

You replying to yourself now and it also looks like you're buying 2 bikes with yourself as well. 

just making sure there is a continuation on a previous comment so that things do not get lost and one reads it in context.

[T-Bob]

just making sure there is a continuation on a previous comment so that things do not get lost and one reads it in context.

 

Don't lie, you're just trying to find ways to buy 2 bikes and blame it on the 'other' you. 

[Chavo]

just making sure there is a continuation on a previous comment so that things do not get lost and one reads it in context.

Context is not lost here

[Jewbacca]

Any chance you can give a quick review on the frames / bikes you tried in that list? I was looking at the VRX and Smuggler, Kona Process and an Evil Following V1 and the Jeffsy. I've never ridden one but I've seen there are some older version ones for sale locally. I'm looking for a trail bike and not an enduro sled, I'm coming off one of those and (in my opinion) they are not the best match for 80% of terrain around Cape Town. I just find them quite dead and no real urgency them.  Of course you can ride them good any where but for me, and not everyone else obviously, I want a harder hitting trail bike that likes to go down and have a lot of fun while doing it. 

The Vitus is BIG. Scratch that.

 

IMHO the Smuggler, the Jeffsy or the Following.

 

Add to that the Marin Rift Zone. You can import from CRC but there is a local Marin dealer. 

 

I prefer my Jeffsy over the Smuggler. The 140mm/140mm feels more balanced with the geometry. More 'get out of jail free' but with equal fun and IMHO better climbing. I leave Jeffsy in Slack mode.

 

I have never ridden the Evil. I hear only good things, but I don't like how it looks. 

 

The Rift Zone looks similar to Jeffsy and the Smuggler. The numbers look spot on for SA trails but with no 'real world' experience it could be a gamble.

 

I was ready to throw that dice though. 

 

I did also shift away from trying to get something long. To me the size guides are all pushing you towards longer. Which IS better on steep trails, but here it's meh. 

 

I have space for a 170mm dropper and the bike is way roomy enough for me but doesn't have me splayed out over a long top tube unnecessarily. 

[Yo-Yo]

The Vitus is BIG. Scratch that.

 

IMHO the Smuggler, the Jeffsy or the Following.

 

Add to that the Marin Rift Zone. You can import from CRC but there is a local Marin dealer. 

 

I prefer my Jeffsy over the Smuggler. The 140mm/140mm feels more balanced with the geometry. More 'get out of jail free' but with equal fun and IMHO better climbing. I leave Jeffsy in Slack mode.

 

I have never ridden the Evil. I hear only good things, but I don't like how it looks. 

 

The Rift Zone looks similar to Jeffsy and the Smuggler. The numbers look spot on for SA trails but with no 'real world' experience it could be a gamble.

 

I was ready to throw that dice though. 

 

I did also shift away from trying to get something long. To me the size guides are all pushing you towards longer. Which IS better on steep trails, but here it's meh. 

 

I have space for a 170mm dropper and the bike is way roomy enough for me but doesn't have me splayed out over a long top tube unnecessarily. 

 

Give that man a Bells. Thank you for taking the time to tap out your thoughts here. 

 

I'm with you on the length. I know what I like and what suits me and the latest longer trend isn't what I want. I actually like a more compact bike. I know that might make it less stable on the downs but I've not noticed it taking away any enjoyment o the majority of WC trails. I don't want a long slack, ultra stable machine to monster truck through. I want to feel the trail, have fun with the features, feel smaller and more nimble and for me a shorter chain stay, normal reach and slightly higher front end set up just works for me. Also not 100% sold on the very steep seat angle as it seems to push me very forward and I feel off balance. I now everyone touts 'old geo' around the place but it's no. It's about takin what works for you and riding better. Pretty sure the pendulum is going to swing back and find the sweet spot for reach, slackness and the like for trail uses and more extreme uses. Personally I find 66 - 67.5 head angle on a 29 the best for most of the riding I do in the WC - that's dependant on the whole geo set up of course. It's never in isolation. 

 

Will look at the rift zone but with those Carbon Jeffsys @ R17,000 it'll have to work hard to beat that. 

[Jewbacca]

Give that man a Bells. Thank you for taking the time to tap out your thoughts here. 

 

I'm with you on the length. I know what I like and what suits me and the latest longer trend isn't what I want. I actually like a more compact bike. I know that might make it less stable on the downs but I've not noticed it taking away any enjoyment o the majority of WC trails. I don't want a long slack, ultra stable machine to monster truck through. I want to feel the trail, have fun with the features, feel smaller and more nimble and for me a shorter chain stay, normal reach and slightly higher front end set up just works for me. Also not 100% sold on the very steep seat angle as it seems to push me very forward and I feel off balance. I now everyone touts 'old geo' around the place but it's no. It's about takin what works for you and riding better. Pretty sure the pendulum is going to swing back and find the sweet spot for reach, slackness and the like for trail uses and more extreme uses. Personally I find 66 - 67.5 head angle on a 29 the best for most of the riding I do in the WC - that's dependant on the whole geo set up of course. It's never in isolation. 

 

Will look at the rift zone but with those Carbon Jeffsys @ R17,000 it'll have to work hard to beat that. 

Exactly!

 

I am 1.75m short and am settled on the Small Jeffsy. The sit/pedal position is identical to that of my XC bike but with a shorter stem and slightly higher bars. But not much.

 

It seems silly, but if you actually look at the reach numbers, they match decent length XC bikes but have a longer wheel base, slacker HA and more travel, so for me created a super fun to pedal, super fun to descend all round TRAIL bike. 

 

Size guides be damned. 

 

But then I did buy into longer, slacker first before realising that we don't live in Morzine and our local trails are not at all steep.

 

I am also not obsessed with going fast, so I suppose the allure of a freight train shaving 30 seconds off my Plumber time over something I actually enjoy riding as much down and up Faerie Garden is lost on me.

[Hairy]

Context is not lost here

Have not heard back from BSB yet ... also tried calling a good couple of times and had no answer ... when I know you will know!

[Chavo]

Have not heard back from BSB yet ... also tried calling a good couple of times and had no answer ... when I know you will know!

Thanks Hairy. No feedback on my side either as yet

[Duane_Bosch]

 

I am 1.75m short and am settled on the Small Jeffsy. The sit/pedal position is identical to that of my XC bike but with a shorter stem and slightly higher bars. But not much.

 

Hectic. I'm 1.72 and I'm on a large.

 

I do think the bike is too big for me TBH but I got it for a bargain and all the shredders on here told me a short stem solves all handling woes so I did that. I also have a short dropper.

 

That and the reach numbers were the same as my medium reign.

 

I'm with you on the long bike thing. We don't ride bike parks at mach 3.

[Hairy]

Hectic. I'm 1.72 and I'm on a large.

 

I do think the bike is too big for me TBH but I got it for a bargain and all the shredders on here told me a short stem solves all handling woes so I did that. I also have a short dropper.

 

That and the reach numbers were the same as my medium reign.

 

I'm with you on the long bike thing. We don't ride bike parks at mach 3.

Did you pair your short stem with a Magic Mary?

[Yo-Yo]

Did you pair your short stem with a Magic Mary?

 

 

[Hairy]

Thanks Hairy. No feedback on my side either as yet

Hi Chavo ... Jaco say's the XL is sold unfortunately ... unless you are the person he just sold it to?

[Chavo]

Hi Chavo ... Jaco say's the XL is sold unfortunately ... unless you are the person he just sold it to?

Nope! That is a pity, faced the battle of finding an XL for ages. Oh well, maybe next time

[Hairy]

Nope! That is a pity, faced the battle of finding an XL for ages. Oh well, maybe next time

Will keep and eye out for you and ask around!

[Jewbacca]

Hi Chavo ... Jaco say's the XL is sold unfortunately ... unless you are the person he just sold it to?

So does that mean 'New Bike Day' for Hairy?!