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believe me I was so p offed with a metro cop. When the elite break away bunch approached from the front ( we where on a training ride and ding the route in reverse ) the metro cop pulled in next to the commissioners vehicle and drove next to him coming head on with us where we far left in the lane (our lane). All of the riders was in the far left in their lane (our far right) and pushed us almost off the road where there is no yellow line, just long grass and rough terrain. we slowed down and as the metro passed her mirror was brushing against me and a huge amount of swear words followed. Sorry for the elites boys that heard me going off at the metro cop

 

 

Just an honest question, why would you use the same route (in reverse) when you know there's a race in progress?  I can only imagine the cars already on that road being pissed off by the many cycling groups and traffic delays, now you have another bunch coming in the opposite direction.  Traffic marshals usually push the oncoming cars onto the gravel where possible, so I would guess they's do the same with oncoming bicycles.  Sounds like an accident waiting to happen.  Nevertheless, just a question and thought, be safe out there

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Just an honest question, why would you use the same route (in reverse) when you know there's a race in progress?  I can only imagine the cars already on that road being pissed off by the many cycling groups and traffic delays, now you have another bunch coming in the opposite direction.  Traffic marshals usually push the oncoming cars onto the gravel where possible, so I would guess they's do the same with oncoming bicycles.  Sounds like an accident waiting to happen.  Nevertheless, just a question and thought, be safe out there

I've never thought of it this way. Would be interesting to see the response. 

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Just an honest question, why would you use the same route (in reverse) when you know there's a race in progress?  I can only imagine the cars already on that road being pissed off by the many cycling groups and traffic delays, now you have another bunch coming in the opposite direction.  Traffic marshals usually push the oncoming cars onto the gravel where possible, so I would guess they's do the same with oncoming bicycles.  Sounds like an accident waiting to happen.  Nevertheless, just a question and thought, be safe out there

 

+1000  :thumbup:

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Just an honest question, why would you use the same route (in reverse) when you know there's a race in progress?  I can only imagine the cars already on that road being pissed off by the many cycling groups and traffic delays, now you have another bunch coming in the opposite direction.  Traffic marshals usually push the oncoming cars onto the gravel where possible, so I would guess they's do the same with oncoming bicycles.  Sounds like an accident waiting to happen.  Nevertheless, just a question and thought, be safe out there

easy. To support fellow mates and encourage them. On that specific route you do not find a lot of vehicles.That's why many cyclist actually ride that route because of the few vehicles using it.  But that's not the what it is about. There is ample space on the road and as said it was the break away group of 8 riders rolling through to keep the pace up (far left). If it was a group / peleton like the other that came we pulled off or was in the yellow lane.

I would fully agree if we where a danger for the cyclist coming from the front, then they can act upon it. But a metro police vehicle with the commissioners behind the group, not the front of it, no justification for metro's action. Also remember there was a few Road rangers motorcycles in front of them and just waved to slow down and move to the far left like they always do and what we did.

 

You also don't act in a way that is a danger to other cyclist / pedestrian / motorist no matter if you are in a vehicle or on a bicycle. 

 

We can then say exactly the same or ask the question?. You know that in the cradle is a lot of traffic and cyclist in big groups coming from the front. Why are you cycling then against their flow as you know that motorist will be irritated already and without any metro, officials escorting you. The vehicles also passing the big groups. So who do you want to blame if your where the cyclist that almost got taken out or hit. Yourself of the motorist that acted irresponsible?

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Is this a full road closure event looking to do it next year

Most definitely not. Only FULL closure road races I know about are - 

 

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Thanks after the Suncity incident one has to carefully think about races to do. If they not full road closure

Going to play devils advocate here............

 

I don't get this sentiment.

 

You have a better chance of dying in you car today on the roads that what happened in the event at LC.   Statistically I am sure (I don't have the facts and is based on personal gut feeling) you have a better chance of dying of a heart attack rather than getting hit by a car on a bicycle.

More people have been seriously hurt and careers ended by just competing and crashed with other BICYCLES in a race..........no cars involved at all.  

There are NO guarantees in life.  If your ticket is punched, you are out of here.  Sure you should live responsible and not go out of your way to look for trouble but I am for SURE as hell not going to base my decisions on participating in an event based upon full road closure or not.  

 

Something will kill you, don't worry.  I'd rather enjoy and make the most of that journey leading up to that day........and that includes racing my bike with other cyclists.

 

But that is just me.

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Going to play devils advocate here............

 

I don't get this sentiment.

 

You have a better chance of dying in you car today on the roads that what happened in the event at LC.   Statistically I am sure (I don't have the facts and is based on personal gut feeling) you have a better chance of dying of a heart attack rather than getting hit by a car on a bicycle.

More people have been seriously hurt and careers ended by just competing and crashed with other BICYCLES in a race..........no cars involved at all.  

There are NO guarantees in life.  If your ticket is punched, you are out of here.  Sure you should live responsible and not go out of your way to look for trouble but I am for SURE as hell not going to base my decisions on participating in an event based upon full road closure or not.  

 

Something will kill you, don't worry.  I'd rather enjoy and make the most of that journey leading up to that day........and that includes racing my bike with other cyclists.

 

But that is just me.

With you on this.

 

Strongly feel full road closure is over rated and only provides a false sense of security.....a bit like estate living

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Thanks after the Suncity incident one has to carefully think about races to do. If they not full road closure

you just need to pick the races more carefully.

The Suncity race seems to me have an incident every year, so that would be one to avoid. However there are other races without full road closure that dont have regular incidents happening.

 

 

But on that note, I think there needs to be some education/discipline from our side as riders. the last race I did that did not have full road closure had cyclists taking over way to much of the road and forcing cars and trucks off the road, it got really sketchy at one point with a few trucks and I dropped off the group because of that.

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