Uni Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 thank goodness for good people. I guess we can all be try and be like Karen. PS. that looks like around my office , I know you said the shock kicked in so quick you couldn't phone but if you want, PM me for my number if ever you're in the *** on a solo ride around the area, me or my work ppl can assist.
Halfdoesyn Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Jislaaik! Dis super scary. Thank you Karen!
Flemish Lion Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 My work blocks video's From reading the above we should all carry something for a potential allergic bee sting! About 2 weeks ago on my commute home on a steep downhill I got stung by a bee on my nose... I had my hands on the brakes so could not get the stinger out quickly... I was then frantically looking for a car so I could use the mirror to check the impact but none were around... would have been funny as they probably thought I urgently needed to pop a pimple A few years ago I was mtbike in the Underberg region and as I got lost and rode through a bees nest... they started chasing me and I sprinted as hard as I could but then realized my road got to a dead end! Luckily the bees had given up... but now I had to ride past their nest again! I didn't get one bite but imagine if they got hold of me with no one there to assist within a 2km radius! My wife who used to be VERY allergic to bees got stung on her lip while we were riding... as we were close to Flora Clinic we went to sit in the ICU just in case... but luckily she was ok
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Heck, D - glad you're okay! That wasn't lekker.
PhilipV Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Sjoe Nathrix, bly jy is okay. I've just gone and put two allergex pills into my riding bag. For just in case. related story.My boet is a doctor, two years ago he met a guy at Cape Town 10s who was about to leave for an Overland trip into Africa. He asked my boet for a list of meds and astuff that he needs to be prepared. On the list was an Epipen. The guy couldn't get one when he went shopping, and had to go back to the pharmacy just before they left to pick it up. While in Chobe they heard a commotion and it turned out that a german lady was stung by a bee and going into anaphylactic shock. He rushed back to his car and grabbed the kit, and when he got there, they administered it and the lady recovered. They are still in contact, and the german lady is now expecting a baby. Always stop to help, and there is nothing wrong with being over-prepared.
Plentipotential Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Quick tip. I have a couple of bee hives and every now and again get zapped. Never anything more than a little pain as I am not allergic, what really helps prevent the swelling and post sting itch as well as pain, I rub the area with scrubs ammonia. Apply with cotton wool but be aware that the ammonia is a sharp smell so keep your snout closed. Also be careful not to over do it as it can damage your skin, do not rub the area.
eddy Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 I'm allergic to bees and I don't react like this. I just swell up bigtime. There is allergic and then there is the situation that Natrix found himself in where you go into anaphylaxis due to hyper sensitivity. The two must not be confused with each other as untreated anaphylactic shock is deadly. Fortunately Epinephrine can reverse the condition and do so very quickly. but the shot must be given within minutes of being stung or you can/will die. Since my first anaphylactic reaction to a bee sting I have gone into anaphylaxis once again but avoided the full horror on a number of occasions by giving myself a shot of adrenaline. This is why I carry a saddlebag on my bike. Each bike has a syringe and two ampules permanently attached. I also have one in my shower bag, my desk, my car, my fridge, my wife's handbag, etc. so I don't always need to remember to grab an Epipen.
Dogs Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Just as a point of interest, Epipens are Prescribed Minimum Benefit and can be claimed as such from medical aid (with some admin). Pharmacy and Dr need to use the correct codes. I mostly ride with one.
Uni Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 There is allergic and then there is the situation that Natrix found himself in where you go into anaphylaxis due to hyper sensitivity. The two must not be confused with each other as untreated anaphylactic shock is deadly. Fortunately Epinephrine can reverse the condition and do so very quickly. but the shot must be given within minutes of being stung or you can/will die. Since my first anaphylactic reaction to a bee sting I have gone into anaphylaxis once again but avoided the full horror on a number of occasions by giving myself a shot of adrenaline. 20180126_074650_resized.jpg This is why I carry a saddlebag on my bike. Each bike has a syringe and two ampules permanently attached. 20180126_081535_resized.jpg I also have one in my shower bag, my desk, my car, my fridge, my wife's handbag, etc. so I don't always need to remember to grab an Epipen.Do they have expiry dates and does being exposed to heat affect the efficacy of them? Makes me think this as my OH was allergic as a child - he's been stung once as an adult and he was fine but wouldn't want to wait till it happens again to see what happens.
V12man Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 There is allergic and then there is the situation that Natrix found himself in where you go into anaphylaxis due to hyper sensitivity. The two must not be confused with each other as untreated anaphylactic shock is deadly. Fortunately Epinephrine can reverse the condition and do so very quickly. but the shot must be given within minutes of being stung or you can/will die. Since my first anaphylactic reaction to a bee sting I have gone into anaphylaxis once again but avoided the full horror on a number of occasions by giving myself a shot of adrenaline. 20180126_074650_resized.jpg This is why I carry a saddlebag on my bike. Each bike has a syringe and two ampules permanently attached. 20180126_081535_resized.jpg I also have one in my shower bag, my desk, my car, my fridge, my wife's handbag, etc. so I don't always need to remember to grab an Epipen.And your ride partners ALL know about this, and know what to do in the event of an emergency. THIS is also an important thing - making your ride partners aware of potential issues and what to do, and where to find your emergency meds.
V12man Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Do they have expiry dates and does being exposed to heat affect the efficacy of them? Makes me think this as my OH was allergic as a child - he's been stung once as an adult and he was fine but wouldn't want to wait till it happens again to see what happens. Yes - they have expiry dates - please don't test out if it still works after the expiry date unless its an absolute emergency - rather just plan the replacements and get them. Edit - unless they are very very old they will be better than nothing - but please do not rely on that - still..... don't not use it if you have it and it is expired.
Halfdoesyn Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Just for interest's sake, how are these injections administered in a case of anaphylaxis? What is the typical dosage?
Mats Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Yes - they have expiry dates - please don't test out if it still works after the expiry date unless its an absolute emergency - rather just plan the replacements and get them. Edit - unless they are very very old they will be better than nothing - but please do not rely on that - still..... don't not use it if you have it and it is expired. Will have to go and check the expiry date on mine and put it back in my handbag.
Uni Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Yes - they have expiry dates - please don't test out if it still works after the expiry date unless its an absolute emergency - rather just plan the replacements and get them. Edit - unless they are very very old they will be better than nothing - but please do not rely on that - still..... don't not use it if you have it and it is expired.Aye Aye Doc
Ferro Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Though i'm not allergic to bee stings I have always kept some Allergex in my cycling tool kit along with some pain meds. As i am uninformed and one day might be able to help someone, would Allergex help at all in a situation like this or with milder cases? Obviously getting to a Dr is priority one but would the Allergex help buy some time at least?
V12man Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 Just for interest's sake, how are these injections administered in a case of anaphylaxis? What is the typical dosage?With an epipen just stick the needle in and press button - all done for you. With a syringe typically about 1 cc for an adult over 40kg - usually the syringes one carries are matched to the dose required. A small overdose is not anywhere near life threatening generally.
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