Tubeless on the road

[ChrisF]

2 hours ago, The Ouzo said:

My rear tyre has been running a tube for nearly a year now because of a cut in the tyre that wont seal. Maybe its in my head, but I feel like even though I pump it to the same pressure as without the tube, the ride feels harder, and I'm sure there is more rolling resistance.

 

Front tyre might be getting a tube soon to. A couple of weeks back I hit something on the road in the dark, it really jolted me on the  bike. Did not see anything wrong with the tyre after the ride, but with the bike hanging in the garage for a week whilst I was ill, when I looked at the tyre over the weekend there is a light cut on the sidewall and a small amount of sealant was visible.

 

I'll have to wait for my SARS rebate to buy 2 new tyres soon.

 

On my Scott I did the first 1000km with tubes, then did the tubeless conversion.

 

At least 0,2bar difference for the same ride experience !

[Andreas_187]

I couldn’t get hold of Orange Seal in time so fitted new tyres with Enduro Seal from sportsman’s warehouse. Complete sh*t! Had a tiny tiny hole and it wouldn’t seal it. I don’t know how others have recommended it, completely useless.

[dasilvarsa]

11 hours ago, Andreas_187 said:

I couldn’t get hold of Orange Seal in time so fitted new tyres with Enduro Seal from sportsman’s warehouse. Complete sh*t! Had a tiny tiny hole and it wouldn’t seal it. I don’t know how others have recommended it, completely useless.

Same Here,

It used to work fine for a long time. Then the Wheels Fell off somewhere along the line.

[Furbz]

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[The Ouzo]

I’ve been running a tube in the rear wheel for close to 5000km, today a piece of glass slices the tyre, instant flat. 
pulled over, wrestled the tyre off only to discover the tube stuck to the inside of the tyre. The old sealant holding it in place like glue. Took some power to wrestle them apart. 
 

New tube got me home. For now I’ve super glued the tyre and put a nice big patch on the inside, will have to use some of my SARS rebate for new tyres, these ones are barely holding themselves together. 

[dasilvarsa]

1 hour ago, The Ouzo said:

I’ve been running a tube in the rear wheel for close to 5000km, today a piece of glass slices the tyre, instant flat. 
pulled over, wrestled the tyre off only to discover the tube stuck to the inside of the tyre. The old sealant holding it in place like glue. Took some power to wrestle them apart. 
 

New tube got me home. For now I’ve super glued the tyre and put a nice big patch on the inside, will have to use some of my SARS rebate for new tyres, these ones are barely holding themselves together. 

Tubeless One Has One Advantage.

You can Plug a Simple Puncture from the Outside

Disadvantages.

Heavier than Tubes.

More Expensive to Run.

Mucky Dirty.

 

[DieselnDust]

On 5/7/2023 at 4:05 PM, craiganavi said:

So after many happy Km's on my Tubeless GP 5000 TL tyres with Orange Seal Regular (Approximately cleaned out and topped up 2months ago). My own fault, I rode over a patch of glass not watching the road. Big puncture in my rear and most of the sealant shot out and unfortunately would not seal. My previous punctures the sealant did the trick. Obviously I do not carry tubes with me anymore so I was done for the morning.

I have now come across 'Dynaplug' and other brands for road bike tyres. Has anyone had any experience with these or similar product for road tyres? 

Is it safe to ride with a plug on a road tyre? As the tyre is narrow and high pressure? Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

 

 

if  your tyr pressures are lower than 60psi then a plug should hold. If greater than 60psi rather replace the tyre as the plugs just don't don't hold well. Get a mushroom head plug/patch from a motorcycle store and repair the tyre with that

[warick_wrx]

A normal tube patch applied on the inside works wonders. However if the cut is to big it may not work. The savings in time on side of the road and constantly buying tubes still make tubless worth it !

[splat]

13 hours ago, dasilvarsa said:

Tubeless One Has One Advantage.

You can Plug a Simple Puncture from the Outside

Disadvantages.

Heavier than Tubes.

More Expensive to Run.

Mucky Dirty.

 

Don't forget the lower pressure, which means more comfort and better grip,

[splat]

8 hours ago, DieselnDust said:

if  your tyr pressures are lower than 60psi then a plug should hold. If greater than 60psi rather replace the tyre as the plugs just don't don't hold well. Get a mushroom head plug/patch from a motorcycle store and repair the tyre with that

Perhaps there are various types of those mushroom plugs, but the ones I used created a 'stiff patch' in the tyre which pushed it out of shape and felt unbalanced.
A normal tube patch on the inside seemed to work better.

If the hole got too big, then the tyre got binned. But the same would happen to a non-tubeless tyre anyway...

[DieselnDust]

1 hour ago, splat said:

Perhaps there are various types of those mushroom plugs, but the ones I used created a 'stiff patch' in the tyre which pushed it out of shape and felt unbalanced.
A normal tube patch on the inside seemed to work better.

If the hole got too big, then the tyre got binned. But the same would happen to a non-tubeless tyre anyway...

Yea that is an unfortunate side effect of that patch.

I’ve found normal patches fail after a while and the. I’m back to square one with a buggered tyre.

running 28c and higher is the best option for tubeless

[Thomo]

What's the latest on road sealant.?

Orange Seal seemed to be top of most lists for a while but not always easy to get hold of.

A new Enduroseal high pressure option was apparently available at CTCT expo. (I wasn't able to get there)

Any feedback on it.? And where to get it now.?

Or how about the Sludge Pro Road option.?

Or is Stans Race still the alternative default.?

Deciding on road sealant is always so much fun ... 🙈

[Jbr]

7 minutes ago, Thomo said:

Orange Seal seemed to be top of most lists for a while but not always easy to get hold of.

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Stans Race still the alternative default.?

as far as I'm concerned, this.

But also I'm now running 32s at 4.5 bars so probably can use almost any other sealant, I've got tons of Squirt, that now comes with extra "beadblock", I'm hoping this will work well on the road. So far on MTB and Gravel it's been perfectly fine (and unlike Orange I did not have to top up every 2nd other month)

Edited March 21 by Jbr

[Thomo]

4 minutes ago, Jbr said:

as far as I'm concerned, this.

But also I'm now running 32s at 4.5 bars so probably can use almost any other sealant, I've got tons of Squirt, that now comes with extra "beadblock", I'm hoping this will work well on the road. So far on MTB and Gravel it's been perfectly fine (and unlike Orange I did not have to top up every 2nd other month)

I've seen the Squirt product but little feedback on it's effectiveness.

"Beadlock" looks like and interesting additive even to use with other sealants ... an improvement on the glitter and mielie meal. 😊

[guidodg]

19 minutes ago, Jbr said:

as far as I'm concerned, this.

But also I'm now running 32s at 4.5 bars so probably can use almost any other sealant, I've got tons of Squirt, that now comes with extra "beadblock", I'm hoping this will work well on the road. So far on MTB and Gravel it's been perfectly fine (and unlike Orange I did not have to top up every 2nd other month)

Squirt with beadblock is completely useless...worst sealant I have ever tried [and I have used dozens]...

Enduro or Orange Seal

[DieselnDust]

Sealant…. Ah like chainlube boils down to how it is stored, applied and in what tyre at what pressure.

1) people don’t consider how hot a tyre gets and that affects sealant performance and longevity 

2) tyre pressure above 70psi is not going to result in a reliable seal in a high performance tyre with high tpi. 60psi is the seeet spot.

3) select your tyre so that you can run the system between 60-70psi. Higher than that, ….. pick your ticket

4) I’m still happy with enduro seal. When above criteria are met it’s reliable 

5) for higher pressures in 26c and narrower I use enduro seal in my tubes.