Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 I feel .... so,so emotional right now. Because you ask a simple question you get ignored. My emotions require me to go have some vino. Better make it the good stuff. Straight out the box.Okay. Difficult one, this. It's racy as it's still a 100mm XC bike, but it's not nearly as nervous / skittish over the rough stuff as your Titus would be due to the increased reach and slacker head angles than the "traditional" XC bike would ordinarily have. Make no mistake, there's still a small margin for error, but with a 120mm fork on the front it'd be more of a vizsla than a greyhound. If that makes sense. The increased reach means there's more room to move around the bike when you're out the saddle, and get your body in the right position. Always a good thing. The reasonably steep seat angle and not so super short chainstays also means it'll climb pretty well, as your arse won't be out over the rear wheel all the time. The longish wheelbase also means added stability in the rough stuff and at speed, whilst that may detract from outright nippiness in the handling department, it's a trade-off that, in my opinion, makes sense. That's what I get from the numbers. In short - a racy bike that's not afraid to take on the gnar. It'd be in my top 5 if I was choosing a short travel bike, or were a stage racer looking for something more realistic than what we've been having forced down our throats over the past few years.
MomsenBikes SA Posted July 25, 2018 Author Posted July 25, 2018 Okay. Difficult one, this. It's racy as it's still a 100mm XC bike, but it's not nearly as nervous / skittish over the rough stuff as your Titus would be due to the increased reach and slacker head angles than the "traditional" XC bike would ordinarily have. Make no mistake, there's still a small margin for error, but with a 120mm fork on the front it'd be more of a vizsla than a greyhound. If that makes sense. The increased reach means there's more room to move around the bike when you're out the saddle, and get your body in the right position. Always a good thing. The reasonably steep seat angle and not so super short chainstays also means it'll climb pretty well, as your arse won't be out over the rear wheel all the time. The longish wheelbase also means added stability in the rough stuff and at speed, whilst that may detract from outright nippiness in the handling department, it's a trade-off that, in my opinion, makes sense. That's what I get from the numbers. In short - a racy bike that's not afraid to take on the gnar. It'd be in my top 5 if I was choosing a short travel bike, or were a stage racer looking for something more realistic than what we've been having forced down our throats over the past few years. great summary and insight!!!! Racey - if you want.Comfy - if you want.Fun - if you want.Comfy Race - if you want. Flip That Chip!!!!!
Rick Sanchez Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 I like it. Just not sold on the colour scheme. Frame looks good though and I like the option of 3 bottles
Slowbee Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 Okay. Difficult one, this. It's racy as it's still a 100mm XC bike, but it's not nearly as nervous / skittish over the rough stuff as your Titus would be due to the increased reach and slacker head angles than the "traditional" XC bike would ordinarily have. Make no mistake, there's still a small margin for error, but with a 120mm fork on the front it'd be more of a vizsla than a greyhound. If that makes sense. The increased reach means there's more room to move around the bike when you're out the saddle, and get your body in the right position. Always a good thing. The reasonably steep seat angle and not so super short chainstays also means it'll climb pretty well, as your arse won't be out over the rear wheel all the time. The longish wheelbase also means added stability in the rough stuff and at speed, whilst that may detract from outright nippiness in the handling department, it's a trade-off that, in my opinion, makes sense. That's what I get from the numbers. In short - a racy bike that's not afraid to take on the gnar. It'd be in my top 5 if I was choosing a short travel bike, or were a stage racer looking for something more realistic than what we've been having forced down our throats over the past few years. oh so now you work for momsen ? pfffft they should offer me a ride as compensation for my emotional trauma of non response on a public forum with hundreds of posts a day.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 oh so now you work for momsen ? pfffft they should offer me a ride as compensation for my emotional trauma of non response on a public forum with hundreds of posts a day.@momsenbikes you see this? Where's my money. Terry, RIDE YOUR FLIPPIN BIKE! You've just frikkin bought it, ffs.
MomsenBikes SA Posted July 25, 2018 Author Posted July 25, 2018 I like it. Just not sold on the colour scheme. Frame looks good though and I like the option of 3 bottles we have not released the color scheme - so hang in there - you may just LOVE IT!
MomsenBikes SA Posted July 25, 2018 Author Posted July 25, 2018 and what is the riding position ? going for the win, or a hopefully just finishing ?EDIT: I mean is this racing geometry or relaxed comfy ? Riding Position : with the Flip Chip there are 2 positions per fork --- so 100mm has NORMAL or STEEP and 120mm fork has NORMAL or STEEP Going for the Win - YES, if that is your scene! Just Finishing - YES, it will help you do that! With that FLIP CHIP you can choose -- you could even LOOK LIKE YOU GOING FOR THE WIN and then JUST FINISH ( like me! ) Or JUST BE FINISHING but then GOING FOR THE WIN ( sneaky! ) Choices! that is what this bike is about.
SwissVan Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 under the Downtube --- Munga , Freedom Challenge, Tour Divide etc. just an option if you need/want it. the front triangle fits 2 full size bottles comfortably already too.Neva Eva Treva...Who seriously rides with a bottle under the downtube?Have u seen how much gunge is attracted to the downtube under side??
Hairy Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 we have not released the color scheme - so hang in there - you may just LOVE IT!Just remember it has been proven that red bikes are faster #JustSaying
Grease_Monkey Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 Neva Eva Treva...Who seriously rides with a bottle under the downtube?Have u seen how much gunge is attracted to the downtube under side??Just use it as water storage. When your other bottles are empty you just pour that water over into the other bottles. I would've seriously appreciated a third bottle during the half 36One earlier this year. Ran out of water in the middle of the day right between two water points. That hour without water killed me... at that point I would've swallowed stagnant cholera infected water, bit of mud wouldn't have bothered me at all!
SwissVan Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 Just use it as water storage. When your other bottles are empty you just pour that water over into the other bottles. I would've seriously appreciated a third bottle during the half 36One earlier this year. Ran out of water in the middle of the day right between two water points. That hour without water killed me... at that point I would've swallowed stagnant cholera infected water, bit of mud wouldn't have bothered me at all!Point taken I just don’t ever remember seeing people use that place for water bottles and I know there have been bikes with that facility for years already
Grease_Monkey Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 Point taken I just don’t ever remember seeing people use that place for water bottles and I know there have been bikes with that facility for years alreadyIf I had a bike with that option it's probably not a place where I would permanently mount a bottle cage - I agree it's not ideal, and doesn't look good. But it's nice to have it for the odd event or two per year where you may need it - luckily a bottle cage takes 2mins to mount/take off. A lot of people will probably not use it, they would mount the third bottle on the seatpost, but I'm a dropper seatpost guy all the way. Just cool to have the option...
Jewbacca Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 Point takenI just don’t ever remember seeing people use that place for water bottles and I know there have been bikes with that facility for years alreadyI rode Freedom Challenge/AR expeditions with a bottle snuggled in therewhen my frame offered it. It does collect gunk but as mentioned, I just poured it into the other bottles. It's nice to have on those bike races where you aren't skipping through rocks at speed or hitting doubles with abandon. Touring/endurance racing where waterpoints are non existent and fresh/drinkable water isn't always guaranteed to be withing 100km of where you last filled up. For most people it is overkill as they regard finishing the Epic as a super tough endurance event, but for those who do need it, it is an absolute gem. Getting weight off your back and onto your frame is important and an extra 750ml plus bottle is a lot of water and a lot of weight to shed.
DieselnDust Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 Got to love the spec sheet experts who can tell how a bike rides just by looking at numbers. I much prefer to test ride a bike before saying much about it. I have ridden bikes with higher bb's that felt better than long low slack bikes on my trails, and vice versa. At the end of the day the bike is an extension of the rider and only the rider can determine if said bike ticks all the boxes. That said, I like the Ultra. Many features of the design are appealing and none of those involve geometry
SwissVan Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 Got to love the spec sheet experts who can tell how a bike rides just by looking at numbers. I much prefer to test ride a bike before saying much about it. I have ridden bikes with higher bb's that felt better than long low slack bikes on my trails, and vice versa. At the end of the day the bike is an extension of the rider and only the rider can determine if said bike ticks all the boxes. That said, I like the Ultra. Many features of the design are appealing and none of those involve geometryHow dare you call us armchair xspurts ????
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