Escapee.. Posted November 29, 2018 Share For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/being-gay-a-life-style-choice/ Does that cover it sufficiently for you? As per the link you supplied: ConclusionAs a result of everything I have read, learned and experienced as a mental health worker, I long ago concluded that homosexuality is not a matter of choice. Instead, it seems quite clear to me that there is a combination of genetic and biological factors that cause people to become gay. Choice and willfulness have nothing to do with who does and does not become homosexual. Those who are gay have no more choice over their sexual preferences than those who are heterosexual. Vegan clearly not the same as being gay Edited November 29, 2018 by Escapee.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted November 29, 2018 Share As per the link you supplied: ConclusionAs a result of everything I have read, learned and experienced as a mental health worker, I long ago concluded that homosexuality is not a matter of choice. Instead, it seems quite clear to me that there is a combination of genetic and biological factors that cause people to become gay. Choice and willfulness have nothing to do with who does and does not become homosexual. Those who are gay have no more choice over their sexual preferences than those who are heterosexual. Vegan clearly not the same as being gay For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Read it once more... For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Last time... For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Got it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDW Posted November 29, 2018 Share For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Read it once more... For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Last time... For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Got it now? Okay so is being gay a choice or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefmeister Posted November 29, 2018 Share ''other sources of the killer elements, he discovered the amazing fact that these acacia trees were capable of defending themselves from over-browsing by literally killing off the animals that ate their leaves.To top this off, he found that they also release ethylene from damaged leaves which float downwind, and are absorbed by neighbouring trees. The ethylene acts as a warning signal – a kind of chemical SOS. The neighbouring trees then start to produce more tannin-C before they are browsed''https://uk.blastingnews.com/world/2015/10/the-incredible-killer-tree-that-broadcasts-an-sos-to-its-neighbours-00610971.html Trees and plants have feelings.We not being able to perceive it does not mean it does not exist. Drawing that conclusion ( that plants have feelings) from that is just wrong.The logical explanation would be evolution favoured the survival of these trees that produced ethylene when tissue were damaged as well as those that responded to it. Ethylene is a plant hormone that serves many functions, including stimulating ripening of fruit as well as in this case where tissue is damaged. Tannins (phenolic compounds) are present in plants, and serves amongst other things to protect plants.Nothing supernatural about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted November 29, 2018 Share Okay so is being gay a choice or not? I'm going to go with: For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted November 29, 2018 Share Okay so is being gay a choice or not?He is saying that some are born that way. Some born straight choose to be gay. It is both a choice for SOME and not a choice for others. Let's keep this thread on track... Edited November 29, 2018 by Grease_Monkey Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted November 29, 2018 Share He is saying that some are born that way. Some born straight choose to be gay. It is both a choice for SOME and not a choice for others. Let's keep this thread on track... Here is a well balanced view on it - by people with a lot more experience and education than me: https://borngay.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001335 That should end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted November 29, 2018 Share Sexuality is far to cOmplex and research far too little to make judgement calls on at this stage....early development, genetics, etc etc etc are little understood in relation to the complexity of the human being. Insulting or having a holier than thou attitude on either side of the fence is unacceptable. HDW and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapee.. Posted November 29, 2018 Share It is a valid card in that lions are forced to eat meat - humans have alternatives. Either way the whole argument is a bit silly. Being vegan is like being gay, religious, mixed race couples etc - if you don't want to be any of those things don't. You have the choice. You also have the responsibility to not condemn anyone who chooses a lifestyle different to yours (same applies to them). Eldron you keep posting studies that show that most people have no choice in being gay. That is not what you said in this quote thoughSo fix this and we can all go ahead and finish our organic kale salads Patchelicious and HDW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDW Posted November 29, 2018 Share I'm going to go with: For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Which isn't what you said in your first post regarding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted November 29, 2018 Share Here is a well balanced view on it - by people with a lot more experience and education than me: https://borngay.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001335 That should end that discussion.You know the American psychological association listed hmesxuality as a disease as recently as 1972.... You really think in the time since then we completely understand homosexuality... way to soon to tell. Back to veganism, you remember not so long ago, eggs were bad, butter was bad, fat was bad and margarine and low fat diets were the healthier alternative. Point being, one should refrain from the aujourd'hui philosophy and the supposed enlightened views that follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousea Posted November 29, 2018 Share For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Read it once more... For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Last time... For some it's a lifestyle choice - for most it isn't. Got it now?Popcorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDW Posted November 29, 2018 Share Popcorn. With no butter. Mousea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousea Posted November 29, 2018 Share With no butter.Margerine HDW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodbadugly Posted November 29, 2018 Share Drawing that conclusion ( that plants have feelings) from that is just wrong.The logical explanation would be evolution favoured the survival of these trees that produced ethylene when tissue were damaged as well as those that responded to it. Ethylene is a plant hormone that serves many functions, including stimulating ripening of fruit as well as in this case where tissue is damaged. Tannins (phenolic compounds) are present in plants, and serves amongst other things to protect plants.Nothing supernatural about it.Very much a choice of definitions.Trees can't run or cry. Trying to stay alive by omitting noxious substances is a next level of evolution.Same as with ethylene. Ingenious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodbadugly Posted November 29, 2018 Share MargerineProper vegan popcorn. Yuck! Mousea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now