Enduro/gravity bike suspension and geo

[Bos]

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So I found the actual thread Meezo.

Have you entered?

Ya Jonkers is a bit more Physical than Witfontein. You have to be prepared for that thing. It will eat you alive. By the bottom of most trails I have armpump and struggling. Its full on stealth squad training from now on, and you'll still be losing 2-3 minutes to the "pro's" down Armageddon.  

[Meezo]

3 minutes ago, Bos said:

So I found the actual thread Meezo.

Have you entered?

Ya Jonkers is a bit more Physical than Witfontein. You have to be prepared for that thing. It will eat you alive. By the bottom of most trails I have armpump and struggling. Its full on stealth squad training from now on, and you'll still be losing 2-3 minutes to the "pro's" down Armageddon.  

Entered!

In other words training started today 🥴😂

Edited August 20, 2022 by Meezo

[DieselnDust]

On 8/18/2022 at 11:54 AM, Headshot said:

I think your answer lies on the Spank website - they even do it to some rims they sell. I can't feel the foam when riding 🙂 

Is the foam not just part of the production process? My road bikes rims are EPS blanks laminated with HM carbon. The EPS adds toughness and vibration damping. The ride quality is silky

[ChristiaanSt]

38 minutes ago, Bos said:

I'm not aware of a Thread on this yet.. If I missed It, appologies in advance. Does anyone have any more information on the stages? 

https://www.entryninja.com/events/78086-western-cape-enduro

Western Cape Enduro hosted at Jonkershoek

Sun 25 Sep 2022, 07:00 @ Stellenbosch, Western Cape

 

Race Information:

• Full Race - 5 stages  25km
• Lite Race - 3 stages 17km

 

I'm very excited to get the opportunity to do a race as I couldn't attend Witfontein this year. However, 5 stages.. One month of training to go, Im not exactly going to be fighting fit.. Even If I manage to get a couple of big rides in, I think I'd be at my limit If I had to pedal up to Red Phoenix twice, at the moment not to mention, two of those + saaltjie x2 (pretty much) and on top of that, another stage, which the only other option is Firehut. Is it just me or is that beyond 80% of riders looking to partake? 

Unless they break the trails up in shorter stages, but I'm not sure they would want to do that. 

Not to divulge too much info but the stages won’t be full runs from the top as they will be broken up. We went there today to map it all out but all the rain there put a stop to some of it as we don’t want to damage the trails. A trail map and course preview videos will come out soon. 
 

we know that 5 full stages at jonkers is death to most people so we trying to have the stages long enough to keep it fun but not kill the avg guy on the climbs. 

[Bos]

1 hour ago, ChristiaanSt said:

Not to divulge too much info but the stages won’t be full runs from the top as they will be broken up. We went there today to map it all out but all the rain there put a stop to some of it as we don’t want to damage the trails. A trail map and course preview videos will come out soon. 
 

we know that 5 full stages at jonkers is death to most people so we trying to have the stages long enough to keep it fun but not kill the avg guy on the climbs. 

Good news 👏 

Thanks for that. To be honnest, Very vew guys can actually "race" even 4 full stages in Jonkers. But I'd be keen for this. Although my favorite part of pretty much all of the trails are the top halfs.

[Bos]

On 8/20/2022 at 6:02 PM, Meezo said:

Entered!

In other words training started today 🥴😂

Entered as well. Wonder which stages we will be hitting, probably sections of all of them, Unless we hit the DH track, which is looking pretty sick after some work recently. Its actually cool not knowing the stages, It evens it out a bit, like Witfontein, only a handfull of locals gets to ride the trails beforehand, the rest of us ride blind on the day. 

Bike is running sweet right now, the Mezzer is sick. It took quite a while to get it set up right. A fork is only as good as its set up, and that's the reason I got it, because everything is tunable on there. 

Running 30mm sag but only used 120 out of 160mm last night and Its making bumps disappear. I use full travel on "proper trails" but It doesn't give it up to easily. LSC+HSC without harshness. I've always been overdamped on forks which are aimed at 75kg - 90kg riders. I'm seriously excited, and chuffed I was able to get to this point with it. 

The only think I need to sort out before the race is my ghost shifting, which almost had me over the bars on the little double line on Iron Monkey the other day, And perhaps fine tune the tires.. Nox111 gave me a Fomo insert, which I may use for the rear, but at lower pressures the sidewall is actually to flexable to push through berms without burping anyway. Even the EXO+ I have in front is notably more stable at lower speeds and doesn't squirm much, although I've only used it in the rear. I may just get a new DHF for the front and run the old EXO+ on the rear, I've noticed a lot of guys doing that on Insta.

Pitty they don't make the Agressor in EXO+ and softer compound as its not a bad tire. Ive got 1500km on mine at the moment, and its doing an OK job..

[Meezo]

5 minutes ago, Bos said:

Entered as well. Wonder which stages we will be hitting, probably sections of all of them, Unless we hit the DH track, which is looking pretty sick after some work recently. Its actually cool not knowing the stages, It evens it out a bit, like Witfontein, only a handfull of locals gets to ride the trails beforehand, the rest of us ride blind on the day. 

Bike is running sweet right now, the Mezzer is sick. It took quite a while to get it set up right. A fork is only as good as its set up, and that's the reason I got it, because everything is tunable on there. 

Running 30mm sag but only used 120 out of 160mm last night and Its making bumps disappear. I use full travel on "proper trails" but It doesn't give it up to easily. LSC+HSC without harshness. I've always been overdamped on forks which are aimed at 75kg - 90kg riders. I'm seriously excited, and chuffed I was able to get to this point with it. 

The only think I need to sort out before the race is my ghost shifting, which almost had me over the bars on the little double line on Iron Monkey the other day, And perhaps fine tune the tires.. Nox111 gave me a Fomo insert, which I may use for the rear, but at lower pressures the sidewall is actually to flexable to push through berms without burping anyway. Even the EXO+ I have in front is notably more stable at lower speeds and doesn't squirm much, although I've only used it in the rear. I may just get a new DHF for the front and run the old EXO+ on the rear, I've noticed a lot of guys doing that on Insta.

Pitty they don't make the Agressor in EXO+ and softer compound as its not a bad tire. Ive got 1500km on mine at the moment, and its doing an OK job..

good luck with them

i see there's been some action on the plumber entry this weekend... seen on instagram

i haven't ridden plumber since after the fires, and the step up was my biggest fear riding there.
i don't ride iron monkey enough but wandered down there alone the other day "blind" also need to come to terms with those drops... again if they faster/smoother on race run i guess...

[Bos]

1 minute ago, Meezo said:

good luck with them

i see there's been some action on the plumber entry this weekend... seen on instagram

i haven't ridden plumber since after the fires, and the step up was my biggest fear riding there.
i don't ride iron monkey enough but wandered down there alone the other day "blind" also need to come to terms with those drops... again if they faster/smoother on race run i guess...

The drop at the top of Plumber is only scary because it's blind. It really not that hard. The biggest thing on that trail is holding your line through the rocks in the middle. I'm due for a bit of that. May check it out on Wednesday morning. 

The drops at IM is not so hard but they come at a place where one typically does not took to far ahead and there's no lip on them which caused more than a couple of OTB's last time. I'm thinking it's time to check Both of those trails out asbI have not done the top half of IM or Plumber sinceb2019 SA Champs  🤔 

[Meezo]

1 minute ago, Bos said:

The drop at the top of Plumber is only scary because it's blind. It really not that hard. The biggest thing on that trail is holding your line through the rocks in the middle. I'm due for a bit of that. May check it out on Wednesday morning. 

The drops at IM is not so hard but they come at a place where one typically does not took to far ahead and there's no lip on them which caused more than a couple of OTB's last time. I'm thinking it's time to check Both of those trails out asbI have not done the top half of IM or Plumber sinceb2019 SA Champs  🤔 

yeh, not the plumber entry talking about the step about mid way down i can't remember exactly where it is.

the plumber entry drop has had the boards burnt so its got a bit of more spice now

[Meezo]

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https://youtu.be/4ol3UHcsahs

[Bos]

45 minutes ago, Meezo said:

2:16

https://youtu.be/4ol3UHcsahs

I think I know what you're referring to, it's a roll though, scary as a drop as it's rough there. Actually lank dangerous in my opinion which is why it's usually taped off. The kind of thing that will send riders over the bars. If not checked out first. 

 

The little drop and jump thereafter is just  mind over matter and carrying enough speed. Don't go in tentatively, although the worst that can happen is a bad case.. kind of. But I'm taking about 3 years back, so let me give feedback after Wednesday. 

 

 

[Robbie Stewart]

Chap dropped into the Plumber drop on Sunday and cased the knuckle with his front wheel. He went down hard and completely trashed the rim and rotor. He was lucky to not get hurt himself, but his ride was comprehensively over at that stage.

The drop-in planks were completely burnt since the fires and have not been replaced. 

I'm thinking of entering but I absolutely do not have the juice for 5 stages. I was thinking of maybe doing the Lite but I see only up to 30 y.o. may enter in Lite. Older and you do Full according to the official page. If so, I'm skipping out on this one then.

[Jewbacca]

6 minutes ago, Robbie Stewart said:

Chap dropped into the Plumber drop on Sunday and cased the knuckle with his front wheel. He went down hard and completely trashed the rim and rotor. He was lucky to not get hurt himself, but his ride was comprehensively over at that stage.

The drop-in planks were completely burnt since the fires and have not been replaced. 

I'm thinking of entering but I absolutely do not have the juice for 5 stages. I was thinking of maybe doing the Lite but I see only up to 30 y.o. may enter in Lite. Older and you do Full according to the official page. If so, I'm skipping out on this one then.

They won't be from the top.

The runs will be lower halves. They want to be done by lunch time.

I don't think you will see a trail head and will join most trails on the 2nd tier fire road and the bottom two firehuts.

[Meezo]

On 8/22/2022 at 4:03 PM, Bos said:

I think I know what you're referring to, it's a roll though, scary as a drop as it's rough there. Actually lank dangerous in my opinion which is why it's usually taped off. The kind of thing that will send riders over the bars. If not checked out first. 

 

The little drop and jump thereafter is just  mind over matter and carrying enough speed. Don't go in tentatively, although the worst that can happen is a bad case.. kind of. But I'm taking about 3 years back, so let me give feedback after Wednesday. 

 

 

how did it go?

[Headshot]

On 8/20/2022 at 6:23 PM, DieselnDust said:

Is the foam not just part of the production process? My road bikes rims are EPS blanks laminated with HM carbon. The EPS adds toughness and vibration damping. The ride quality is silky

These are aluminium rims and handlebars, so no, not in this case.

[Meezo]

1 hour ago, Robbie Stewart said:

Chap dropped into the Plumber drop on Sunday and cased the knuckle with his front wheel. He went down hard and completely trashed the rim and rotor. He was lucky to not get hurt himself, but his ride was comprehensively over at that stage.

The drop-in planks were completely burnt since the fires and have not been replaced. 

I'm thinking of entering but I absolutely do not have the juice for 5 stages. I was thinking of maybe doing the Lite but I see only up to 30 y.o. may enter in Lite. Older and you do Full according to the official page. If so, I'm skipping out on this one then.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Chj_Im0qR4g/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=