reteid Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 My Fuji team SL was lighter than some carbon bikes. Cheap - light - durable. Choose 2. Goes for carbon and alu. I am also on the Fuji SL Team and it is a very light frame.
Headshot Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Oh no, delisions of carbon superiority dashed...
SwissVan Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 You buy carbon for ride feel, not weight savings when it comes to trail bikes. A carbon trail bike has a burlier carbon lay-up than a carbon XC bike, and that makes it around the same weight as an alu bike. My carbon trail frame actually weighs more than any alu frame I have owned. So the weight diff you are seeing probably comes down more to component spec than anything else. Have a look at the tyres too - that adds quite a bit of weight.For what it’s worth.....The EVO frame is a XCO frame not a trail frame
droo Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 I was just surpirsed was thinking about 1kg lighter hehe. Thanks for input i feel better was scared they filled my Carbon frame with sand or water Check for rocks in the swat box. Your riding buddies may be playing silly buggers.
bikebloke Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 its a MTB they ALL weigh more than 10kgs when you go over 10kgs weight saving is pointless anyways isnt that why you mudbunnies ride without a camelback to be "lighter" lol
love2fly Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 My Trigon dual suss (carbon frame), entry level Rockshox fork with average alloy wheels and Eagle GX weighed around 11,2 with Shimano SPD's (including Maxxis tyres - some OEM tyres are rubbish and weigh nothing), all for the princely sum of R33k 2 years ago...2017 Trek Top Fuel with carbon rims weighs around 250g less but feels much sportier...
DJR Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 Strange how bike weight disappears from my mind when I am riding a great bike. I own carbon, titanium, steel and aluminium bikes. When I get on the lightest one (a carbon roadie) I marvel at how light it is, but 5 minutes later that is the last thing on my mind. When I go from that to ride a 30 year old steel bike, it feels heavy for the first few minutes, but soon enough I fly along in love with its comfortable predictable ride. My mountain bike is a rather burly aluminium trail bike and weighs twice as much as the carbon roadie. I suppose on the steep climbs I sometimes wish for a lighter mtb, but not anymore once I get into the rough stuff. Imho bike weight is somewhat over rated in importance versus design and geometry.
Eddy Gordo Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 I bought a marcello frame on that clearance sale cwc had a few years ago. I really wanted a carbon one but they were all sold out by the time I purchased!Ended up with a bigger composite frame. Rear triangle is carbon and i fitted a carbon, seatpost, fork, & stem.Wheels are wh500 either shimamo or alex and tiagra groupset. Complete build is 7,2 kg. Lighter than 2 of my friends high end full carbon bikes. Wheels and most parts are carbon and the clock 7,8 & 8kg.Still smaak a full on carbon roadie but what i have will do.
love2fly Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 After having ridden (road) alu of various geometry and then a decent but early Trek carbon (circa 2000) and then back to a decent circa 2000 alu Trek for a while and then various other carbon road bikes I have found as the later generations come out they ride more comfortably, accelerate faster and climb better.Admittedly the weight differences each year are marginal but there nevertheless. I went from a Cannondale Synapse to a Supersix Evo Black edition and marvel at how those tiny seatstays carry my weight (and yes it's matt black as that saves 25g in paint...! I will NEVER buy an alu bike again, road or mtb after "upgrading" to carbon mtb also.I have always found on an alu bike when I stand up to accelerate (I'm a biggish guy at 110kg) the alu bike sends a telegram to the wheels and then gets up and goes while on the carbon bike its almost telepathic...but each to their own.
porqui Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 thanks for info guys... How much do you weigh?
Grease_Monkey Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 For what it’s worth.....The EVO frame is a XCO frame not a trail frameI thought he was talking about the Stumpy Evo Alu vs Standard Stumpy Carbon for some reason. I must've been thinking about something else when reading the original post.
Me rida my bicycle Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 Buy the carbon frame, parts can be upgraded later if need be and shimano pedals are flippen heavy. The way the carbon rides is just in a different class. It's hard to explain. Let me put it this way I have 2 nearly identical bikes, weight is roughly the same gear range the same, both good aftermarket wheels even the tyres are the same. The 1 is alu and the other carbon.The ride difference is day and night. You can feel it the moment you start to ride. The carbon is simply in a different class.
Grease_Monkey Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 Buy the carbon frame, parts can be upgraded later if need be and shimano pedals are flippen heavy. The way the carbon rides is just in a different class. It's hard to explain. Let me put it this way I have 2 nearly identical bikes, weight is roughly the same gear range the same, both good aftermarket wheels even the tyres are the same. The 1 is alu and the other carbon.The ride difference is day and night. You can feel it the moment you start to ride. The carbon is simply in a different class.It's time you get yourself a steel bike so you can feel real ride quality
Eddy Gordo Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 It's time you get yourself a steel bike so you can feel real ride quality Def agreeI ha e a steel hardtail, alloy dual sus and csrbon/alloy roadie. The roadie cant compare, but compared.to my previous sancini, i prefer the responsiveness of the marcello.I like the steel ht alot and actually wanted a shan no5 but for some reason they did not respond to my 10 or so emails regarding shipping.Steel is "flexible"Alloy is "stiff" Carbon is extremely "stiff"
DJR Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 No need for steel bikes to be heavy. This is from an interview with Tulio Campagnolo, about Eddy Merckcx and his 1972 bike. Yes, I know it wasn't your average bike, but still, it weighed just a speck under 6 kg, nearly half a century ago. Eddy Merckx hour record, 1972‘I built this bike for Eddy Merckx to attempt the Hour record on. At the time it was the lightest I had ever made, 5.75kg, and this was 46 years ago!‘The stem is titanium, and I had to send it to America to get it welded as no one in Europe knew how to weld titanium back then. ‘The spokes are titanium as well, and the hubs are made by Campagnolo from beryllium alloy, very light and stiff. ‘I drilled out every chain link by hand [saving 95g], which upset the chain’s makers, Regina Extra, as they said it would be too weak for Eddy’s power.’ Colnago also created an especially light headset – just 122g – and had a Columbus steel tubeset drawn that thinned to a mere 0.4mm wall-thickness in the middle, groundbreaking for the day. French company Clement provided 80g tubular tyres and Colnago redesigned a Cinelli Unicanitor saddle to have special sliding seat rails to achieve Merckx’s desired position. The bars were also Cinelli, again drilled out to save weight. Colnago says the fabrication alone took over 200 hours, but it was worth it. ‘I went to Mexico City [chosen for its high altitude and low air pressure] as Merckx’s mechanic. I was not that nervous, but Eddy was. Just five minutes before the start he asked to change the handlebars. ‘In the end he broke the record with 49.431km, and we got drunk together afterwards. It was one of the greatest days of my life.’
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