E Bike cheats

[Jewbacca]

If you ride an eBike in normal pedal bicycle category and you use a timing chip, you that is cheating.

 

Don’t try and shift the guilt by saying that “so what it’s just a casual event” or blaming the organizers.

 

What’s next? “Oh let me use some EPO so that I can keep up with my friends”.

I don't think anyone is saying it isn't cheating.

 

More just saying that being butthurt about it is silly and throwing blanket insults at everyone who rides them isn't going to change the fact that humans kinda suck and law of averages says if you put a whole heap together, some will cheat.

 

Strava isn't 'real'... Seriously, bike riding is meant to be fun. It's a hobby for all of us. Surely if you shift your mindset and accept that it's a hobby and there are no real life gains by beating people you don't know after investing hours and hours into something that is no longer bringing you joy, all of this becomes moot?

[Patchelicious]

I don't think anyone is saying it isn't cheating.

 

More just saying that being butthurt about it is silly and throwing blanket insults at everyone who rides them isn't going to change the fact that humans kinda suck and law of averages says if you put a whole heap together, some will cheat.

 

Strava isn't 'real'... Seriously, bike riding is meant to be fun. It's a hobby for all of us. Surely if you shift your mindset and accept that it's a hobby and there are no real life gains by beating people you don't know after investing hours and hours into something that is no longer bringing you joy, all of this becomes moot?

The people being “butt hurt” aren’t the the villains here.

 

eBikes on Strava is not the issue being discussed here, the issue and the OP was talking about eBikers in races with timing chips. Strava accommodates eBikes, just use that function.

[Martin PJ]

UCI now recognize ebikes as a separate category, so I guess they are here to stay. Rules mention that the engine cannot be more than 250 watts, can only assist to 25 km per hour and rider can only have one battery.

 

Guess if you see a Strava KOM with an ebike, flag it.

[scotty]

Sorry with respect i must say that you are incorrect, for the majority of people that have entered a race their position is relevant and would prefer to be 650th and not 655th if 5 people had cheated in front of them.

 

 

Is this factual or IMO, if factual please add link where details of survey or study was done. As a MTB and road bike user i was not involved but perhaps its because I'm a mid pack rider and only riders at the sharp end were involved in arriving at what you claim. 

[DieselnDust]

I can't take someone seriously who feels that 650th vs 655th is important and a matter of ego.

surely its either sub 3 or try again next year...

[Jewbacca]

The people being “butt hurt” aren’t the the villains here.

 

eBikes on Strava is not the issue being discussed here, the issue and the OP was talking about eBikers in races with timing chips. Strava accommodates eBikes, just use that function.

I completely agree. 

 

What astounds me is that people are actually 'shocked' or disgruntled that people don't follow the rules and then complain about it here instead of with the actual e-bikers at/during/after the race and with the race organisers.

 

Call them cheats to their faces. Rip their number boards off at water stations. Remember their number, search the event photo's and get them disqualified. 

 

Thoughts and prayers though......

[Ashchest]

 Strava accommodates eBikes, just use that function.

 

No it doesn't 

[scotty]

No it doesn't 

Listed under sport type. 

[Markellis]

I always thought that option was for bicycle rides at raves...

[Patchelicious]

No it doesn't

????????????

 

Good memory

[MudLark]

As a matter of principle, what is the difference between an ebike and a motorbike? The difference is one of degree, not of kind. Except for its power limitation, an ebike is no more different from.a motorbike than an EV is from a car. The power source is different and the range may be shorter but its fundamentally the same thing.

 

Currently the limitation is 250w. As more powerful bikes with better batteries are developed and become more common, the existing arguments in favour of 250w ebikes will extend to the more powerful bikes - even more disabled people will be able to go further, etc. It's an endless slippery slope.

 

Ebikes have a place in this world. But they're most certainly not bicycles. The whole idea of cycling as a sport is based upon the idea that its the human body alone providing the motive force.

 

As for the argument about keeping events alive, well perhaps its all over- commercialised already. I would prefer to see matters clearly separated with different starting times and groups for ebikes from the rest, at least until there are enough of them to have their own completely seperate events.

[patches]

I heard they're not as safe as they make out to be, and that people use them to try circumvent rules and regulations on where they are allowed to use them. Not to mention one just looks like a douche using one...

 

Oh damn, my bad! I'm thinking of E-Cigs.

 

No problem with e-bikes at local events, like Trailseekers and the like! Everyone deserves a chance to get a "Congratulations! You participated! Good for you!" medal, and a goodie-bag filled with spamphlets and take-away sized chamois cream samples.

 

Racing is overrated. Ride for fun. Don't do drugs. And look both ways before crossing the road.

[Pure Savage]

Didn’t seem to be an issue at Transbaviaans, maybe try rode that?

[Wayne pudding Mol]

I can't take someone seriously who feels that 650th vs 655th is important and a matter of ego.

surely its either sub 3 or try again next year...

Just because some of us lack talent or don’t train enough doesn’t mean we aren’t racing the funrides. Different levels, different goals, but still racing. I came 201st at last years K2C and I’m not going to podium but if my goal is position 199 this year am I not racing ? I’d be bummed if an ebike knocked me back. If we weren’t racing for for position 655 to 4, 1 to 3 would be insignificant. ebikes aren’t going anywhere, we need to find a way to encourage and accommodate without cheating me and my small penis out of a position however insignificant the real racers think that may be.

Anyway everyone knows any position behind first is just another loser ????

[Mr. G]

If they love their e bikes so much then let them organize their own races where they can use their timing chips.

[RocknRolla]

*Checking calendar to see what day it is

 

If an event has a no E-bike rule, and a participant is seen to use an E-bike, you have time to report such incidents to the race official afterwards. they then need attend to the matter.

 

Engage the race organisers of evnts to be clearer in the participation rules.

 

If the UCI allows E-bikes, as per their rules, and those rules are broken, by all means kick up a fuss.

 

Flag that strava ride. 

 

as for E-bike riders (and everyone else), DBAD - JBL