The toolbox thread

[patches]

1 hour ago, The Ouzo said:

other than the chuck/nose/connector thingy (yes that is the official technical name for it ok  ), what are the core differences between an impact driver and impact wrench ? The wrenches always seem to be slightly cheaper.

Impact drivers and wrenches have a fast, repetitive torsional impact action via a hammer and anvil. These "jolt" fasteners tight or loose.

As dave303e mentioned, they can deliver significantly more torque than a drill-driver. Some are downright vicious and can strip out fine fasteners or woodwork if not careful.

However, unlike drill-drivers that get carried away and try break your wrist when the bit gets caught up, impact drivers and wrenches deliver the torque via the impacts without the twisty-wristies.

This will probably explain it better than I can...

 

[The Ouzo]

1 minute ago, patches said:

Impact drivers and wrenches have a fast, repetitive torsional impact action via a hammer and anvil. These "jolt" fasteners tight or loose.

As dave303e mentioned, they can deliver significantly more torque than a drill-driver. Some are downright vicious and can strip out fine fasteners or woodwork if not careful.

However, unlike drill-drivers that get carried away and try break your wrist when the bit gets caught up, impact drivers and wrenches deliver the torque via the impacts without the twisty-wristies.

This will probably explain it better than I can...

 

i'm talking impact wrench vs impact driver. 

I know the difference between drill and driver, hence me lusting after an impact driver/wrench

[dave303e]

 

Think this one will answer which you should own/buy if you want

[patches]

6 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

i'm talking impact wrench vs impact driver. 

I know the difference between drill and driver, hence me lusting after an impact driver/wrench

Haha sorry didn't read too good!

Driver vs wrench it's pretty much what dave303e said (Ie wrenches typically have higher torque).

They also come in a variety of sizes (both anvil (ie 1/4" - 1") and have various classes (compact, medium torque, high torque and "I'm installing train tracks" torque.

Even a compact (1/4", 3/8" or some even 1/2") is typically more bulky and heavy than an impact driver, but can be used for driving bigger lag bolts etc than the driver would. Mediums are a good size for automotive work. Wheel nuts etc. High torque would be for the likes of steel structure fabrication, and earthmoving equipment mechanicking.

I think for the average person doing woodwork, DIY, and some light mechanicking, an impact driver with a 1/2"and 1/4" square drive adapter will more than suffice.

[The Ouzo]

13 minutes ago, dave303e said:

 

Think this one will answer which you should own/buy if you want

informative video, thanks. Looks like the driver is the one I need to go for.

[patches]

This week in the Toolbox thread...

Some bargains!

First off, a little air compressor I picked up for half price

Second, was an idea I had to repurpose old filing cabinets into tool storage. Picked up a 3 drawer unit from TradeMe (like Gumtree in NZ) for $5

Used some plywood and castors I had lying around to pimp and mobilize it.

 

 

[dave303e]

We had a rather large electric fence put in to keep the big ladies(dairy moo's) safe at night.

The guy came with an adendorff petrol powered auger. Our dirt is lovely and soft and that thing worked such a treat I am off to buy one now as well. If you are doing fencing regularly and it is not too rocky, I can highly recommend one. The auger bit also makes a neat hole not too wide so you need minimal concrete to fill it around a pole. Very efficient.

[dave303e]

3 hours ago, patches said:

This week in the Toolbox thread...

Some bargains!

First off, a little air compressor I picked up for half price

Second, was an idea I had to repurpose old filing cabinets into tool storage. Picked up a 3 drawer unit from TradeMe (like Gumtree in NZ) for $5

Used some plywood and castors I had lying around to pimp and mobilize it.

 

 

Its a good thing you got an air compressor, looks like that morewood could do with a little sky in it's front round... Jokes aside though they are super useful things to have around. One of those begrudging purchases often but very useful.

 

I like what you did with that filing cabinet, really makes it look good, you can quite easily add those smaller wall mounted storage bins to the side as well now

[Long Wheel Base]

On 11/3/2022 at 8:16 AM, dave303e said:

We had a rather large electric fence put in to keep the big ladies(dairy moo's) safe at night.

The guy came with an adendorff petrol powered auger. Our dirt is lovely and soft and that thing worked such a treat I am off to buy one now as well. If you are doing fencing regularly and it is not too rocky, I can highly recommend one. The auger bit also makes a neat hole not too wide so you need minimal concrete to fill it around a pole. Very efficient.

I had to google auger, and then said "o is that what it's called". That thing looks cool and fun to operate.

[Eddy Gordo]

On 11/3/2022 at 8:16 AM, dave303e said:

We had a rather large electric fence put in to keep the big ladies(dairy moo's) safe at night.

The guy came with an adendorff petrol powered auger. Our dirt is lovely and soft and that thing worked such a treat I am off to buy one now as well. If you are doing fencing regularly and it is not too rocky, I can highly recommend one. The auger bit also makes a neat hole not too wide so you need minimal concrete to fill it around a pole. Very efficient.

I hired a non motorised one for 2 holes last year, but the petrol one works a treat for deep and multiple holes.

The trench digging machine is also a great tool to get the job done quickly. Days of digging with a spade..... no thanks.

[mazambaan]

12 hours ago, Long Wheel Base said:

I had to google auger, and then said "o is that what it's called". That thing looks cool and fun to operate.

From experience you do have to be a bit careful in mixed soil with some denser layers, pebbles etc as, if you are running it near full power it can jerk out of control and possibly give you a klap. Additions in such conditions are to pilot hole with a smaller auger (75mm diameter) and to have a pipe frame to guide and control it, for deeper holes, a chain block on top of the frame to pull it out if it gets stuck (be careful where you attach the chain - to the auger is best otherwise you can pull the motor to pieces). Hardly needed for fence posts up to 1.8m I guess.

[Stretched@Birth]

13 hours ago, Long Wheel Base said:

I had to google auger, and then said "o is that what it's called". That thing looks cool and fun to operate.

I once dragged a hand operated one across the ice, on a sled, so that we could make a hole in the ice to draw water for cooking.  Best cup of coffee ever, sitting in the frozen wilderness, after having had to work for that cup of coffee!

[The Ouzo]

12 hours ago, Eddy Gordo said:

I hired a non motorised one for 2 holes last year, but the petrol one works a treat for deep and multiple holes.

The trench digging machine is also a great tool to get the job done quickly. Days of digging with a spade..... no thanks.

I spotted hand operated ones at Leroy Merlin on Sunday 

[dave303e]

2 hours ago, mazambaan said:

From experience you do have to be a bit careful in mixed soil with some denser layers, pebbles etc as, if you are running it near full power it can jerk out of control and possibly give you a klap. Additions in such conditions are to pilot hole with a smaller auger (75mm diameter) and to have a pipe frame to guide and control it, for deeper holes, a chain block on top of the frame to pull it out if it gets stuck (be careful where you attach the chain - to the auger is best otherwise you can pull the motor to pieces). Hardly needed for fence posts up to 1.8m I guess.

You can quickly hear and feel when you hit rocks and then we stop and break it with a pick or Hex rod. But thankfully our soil is really good, we have the odd seam of coal at around 70cm, but the Auger handles it with ease. If it were rocky I wouldn't even bother.

[The Ouzo]

regarding batteries for power tools.

My dad has a Ryobi drill driver thing. strange voltage, 16.6v .

He went searching for a new battery and came up empty at a couple of places, eventually he landed up at Aderndorf where they also initially told him they dont have. But whilst there he enquired on what drill drivers they have on special as if he cant get  a battery he might as well replace. So they pull this drill off the shelf, he looks at it and the battery is the same voltage as he needs. Takes the battery off and it looks very similar. Plugs it into his Ryobi (he took it with for testing) and the thing fits and works. Turns out other than the branding its the same thing.

So he bought the new drill as it came with 2 batteries.

 

So when looking at a brand of power tools, check to see if there arent other tools that use the same batteries, it could open up your options.

[dave303e]

There are a lot of white labelled tools out of China. I mean other than the country specific plugs and a few minor cosmetic details, they are often the same thing.