Tour de France 2024

[Vetplant]

What about a win for Grimay? That would be epic! 

[Jbr]

Who is happy to see Jasper not win at Champs Elysée ? 🙋‍♂️

[Jbr]

This guy 🥰

[babse]

59 minutes ago, Jbr said:

This guy 🥰

His okay yes 👍

[Frosty]

Women’s Tour coverage this week, then almost 2 weeks of UCI World Champs across all disciplines.

Men’s road race in 2 weekends time, followed by the Women’s road race a week later.

[splat]

18 minutes ago, Frosty said:

Women’s Tour coverage this week, then almost 2 weeks of UCI World Champs across all disciplines.

Men’s road race in 2 weekends time, followed by the Women’s road race a week later.

No time for Post Tour Depression !

[Mongoose!]

General classification Tour de France 2023 - yellow jersey

1. Jonas Vingegaard

2. Tadej Pogacar + 7.29

3. Adam Yates + 10.56

4. Simon Yates + 12.23

5. Carlos Rodríguez + 13.17

6. Pello Bilbao + 13.27

7. Jai Hindley + 14.44

8. Felix Gall + 16.09

9. David Gaudu + 23.08

10. Guillaume Martin + 26.30

11. Thibaut Pinot + 28.03

12. Sepp Kuss + 37.32

13. Tom Pidcock + 47.52

14. Rafal Majka + 56.09

15. Jonathan Castroviejo + 56.37

16. Chris Harper + 57.29

17. Ben O'Connor + 1:04.59

18. Wilco Kelderman + 1:06.46

19. Mikel Landa + 1:12.41

20. Valentin Madouas + 1:14.10

 

Points classification Tour de France 2023 - green jersey

1. Jasper Philipsen - 377 points

2. Mads Pedersen - 258

3. Bryan Coquard - 203

4. Tadej Pogacar - 186

5. Jonas Vingegaard - 128

6. Kasper Asgreen - 125

7. Jordi Meeus - 123

8. Matej Mohoric - 106

9. Pello Bilbao - 103

10. Simon Yates - 95

 

Mountain classification Tour de France 2023 - polka dot jersey

1. Giulio Ciccone - 105 points

2. Felix Gall - 92

3. Jonas Vingegaard - 89

4. Neilson Powless - 58

5. Tadej Pogacar - 55

6. Simon Yates - 44

7. Tobias Halland Johannessen - 38

8. Jai Hindley - 31

9. Michal Kwiatkowski - 30

10. Mattias Skjelmose - 29

 

Youth classification Tour de France 2023 - white jersey

1. Tadej Pogacar

2. Carlos Rodríguez + 5.48

3. Felix Gall + 8.40

4. Tom Pidcock + 40.23

5. Mattias Skjelmose + 2:07.58

6. Tobias Halland Johannessen + 2:08.04

7. Mathieu Burgaudeau + 2:13.44

8. Clément Champoussin + 2:50.38

9. Matthew Dinham + 3:06.03

10. Maxim Van Gils + 3:10.20

 

Team standings Tour de France 2023 - yellow helmets

1. Jumbo-Visma

2. UAE-Team Emirates + 7.03

3. Bahrain Victorious + 22.01

4. INEOS Grenadiers + 26.36

5. Groupama-FDJ + 50.44

 

Award for best fighting spirit Tour de France 2023

Stage 1:

Adam Yates ( UAE Team Emirates )

Stage 2:

Neilson Powless (EF Education-EasyPost)

Stage 3:

Laurent Pichon (Arkéa-Samsic)

Stage 4:

Benoit Cosnefroy (AG2R Citroën)

Stage 5:Wout van Aert (Jumbo-Visma)

Stage 6:

Wout van Aert (Jumbo-Visma)

Stage 7:

Simon Guglielmi (Arkéa Samsic)

Stage 8:Anthony Turgis (TotalEnergies)

Stage 9:

Matteo Jorgenson (Movistar)

Stage 10:

Krists Neilands (Israel-Premier Tech)

Stage 11:

Daniel Oss (TotalEnergies)

Stage 12:Mathieu van der Poel (Alpecin-Deceuninck)

Stage 13:Michal Kwiatkowski (INEOS Grenadiers)

Stage 14:Giulio Ciccone (Lidl-Trek)

Stage 15:Adrien Petit (Intermarché-Circus-Wanty)

Stage 16:

Felix Gall (AG2R Citroën)

Stage 17:

Victor Campenaerts (Lotto-Dstny)

Stage 18:

Victor Campenaerts (Lotto-Dstny)

Stage 19:

Victor Campenaerts (Lotto-Dstny)

Stage 20:

Thibaut Pinot (Groupama-FDJ)

Best fighting spirit 2023:

Victor Campenaerts (Lotto-Dstny)

[Shebeen]

21 hours ago, 'Dale said:

Special mention to Egan Bernal, previous winner, who completed the Tour de France after a horrendous crash into the back of a bus while flying downhill on a TT bike.

 

36th place, 2 and half hours behind the yellow, something he wore in 2019.

Seems a lifetime away.

 

What does Bernal take away from this? Is he going to get back to is best, is that even good enough anymore? Probably being extremely unfair, but the top 15 from that year is full of riders who showed so much GC hope but that's about it.

 

 

[J Wakefield]

1 hour ago, Shebeen said:

 

36th place, 2 and half hours behind the yellow, something he wore in 2019.

Seems a lifetime away.

 

What does Bernal take away from this? Is he going to get back to is best, is that even good enough anymore? Probably being extremely unfair, but the top 15 from that year is full of riders who showed so much GC hope but that's about it.

 

 

From someone who as close to being paralysed for life and even possible death with a 3cm leg length desrepancy he takes away so much from this TDF. 

Thomas GT winner 
Valverde GT winner 
Aru GT winner 
Quintana GT winner 
Bardet podium GT
Porte podium GT
Landa podium GT 
Uran podium GT 

I wish this was the type of hope I would be able to deliver. 

[The Ouzo]

@J Wakefield, whilst you're still around, I was wondering about something on my ride yesterday.

What is the average zone a rider sits in during a TDF ?

Obviously there are many factors at play, like what kind of stage it is, what the riders role on the team is etc. But if you can give a ball park.

The other thing I was wondering.

When there is a shot close enough that you can see the riders glasses clearly, they are never dirty of full of sweat, but I'll take a zone 2 ride and the sweat will obscure my vision. Granted I'm wearing cheap glasses, but are their coated with something ?

 

 

[J Wakefield]

5 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

@J Wakefield, whilst you're still around, I was wondering about something on my ride yesterday.

What is the average zone a rider sits in during a TDF ?

Obviously there are many factors at play, like what kind of stage it is, what the riders role on the team is etc. But if you can give a ball park.

The other thing I was wondering.

When there is a shot close enough that you can see the riders glasses clearly, they are never dirty of full of sweat, but I'll take a zone 2 ride and the sweat will obscure my vision. Granted I'm wearing cheap glasses, but are their coated with something ?

 

 

as you mentioned there many factors at play here but overall they sitting zone 1/2 if they just riding. but within that stage for example if you on the front pulling you Z3 typcially sitting deep in the bunch as a protected GC rider, Z1/2. A queen stage is another story. 

[The Ouzo]

1 minute ago, J Wakefield said:

as you mentioned there many factors at play here but overall they sitting zone 1/2 if they just riding. but within that stage for example if you on the front pulling you Z3 typcially sitting deep in the bunch as a protected GC rider, Z1/2. A queen stage is another story. 

thanks for that John. i would have thought that outfront pulling the bunch you'd be in z4 , but z3 shows just how fit and strong these guys are to be pulling the bunch at those speeds

[J Wakefield]

24 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

thanks for that John. i would have thought that outfront pulling the bunch you'd be in z4 , but z3 shows just how fit and strong these guys are to be pulling the bunch at those speeds

Its another level 

Edited July 24, 2023 by J Wakefield

[The Ouzo]

1 minute ago, J Wakefield said:

Tested a rider today, 6wkg threshold 154bpm and 7.9wkg PPO looking for a top 10 at Vuelta. 

That's the level needed 

incredible.

and thats just the physical data, the mental strength must also be outstanding

[Vetplant]

I can fully appreciate the WvA "new father" look.

 

 

[Frosty]

I wonder how much Wout misses being part of the celebrations as team winners, vs being there for the birth?