Tshwane Classic

[Frosty]

38 minutes ago, Skubarra said:

What I mean is did CSA even get the money from Hectic? I assume its usually paid over after the event once the numbers are finalised & paid for, 

That is the process, and it’s being questioned.

Edited November 8, 2022 by Frosty

[Pieter-za]

Article in Pretoria Rekord

https://rekord.co.za/437436/hundreds-of-cyclists-outraged-when-tshwane-classic-race-was-ca0ncelled-at-the-eleventh-hour/

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Theunissen said the city regrets the events of Sunday morning, but that the organizers simply did not meet the requirements, despite efforts to appease them until the very end.

I wonder what Mauritz is going to do with the say ~R1m now, as I don't think there will be another race organised to allocate these monies to...

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In the meantime, it is not clear whether Hectic Promotions will be able to refund the approximately 3,000 cyclists who signed up for the race.

(Would be interesting to know if any other party was indeed contracted and paid in advance to render any service.)

Edited November 8, 2022 by Pieter-za

[117]

Might be a little thread drift, but where is CSA in all of this? Do they not have T&C's that cover the rider (read as member paying the R50 or annual membership) in the event of a mishap like this, and insist on a full refund to the people that entered? Or are they merely happy to flex some muscles to the organisers and insist on a license per rider to get their cut of the cake from a mass event? 

I'd be surprised if they didn't have a horse in this race 

 

[Frosty]

1 hour ago, 117 said:

Might be a little thread drift, but where is CSA in all of this? Do they not have T&C's that cover the rider (read as member paying the R50 or annual membership) in the event of a mishap like this, and insist on a full refund to the people that entered? Or are they merely happy to flex some muscles to the organisers and insist on a license per rider to get their cut of the cake from a mass event? 

I'd be surprised if they didn't have a horse in this race 

My message to CSA/Gauteng Cycling. 

Message removed at the request of the other party. 

Edited November 9, 2022 by Frosty

[117]

Thanks Frosty

Your battery is going flat - like their reply

[Koos Likkewaan 2]

12 minutes ago, 117 said:

Thanks Frosty

Your battery is going flat - like their reply

Think it is on charge 😀

[Frosty]

3 minutes ago, 117 said:

Thanks Frosty

Your battery is going flat - like their reply

3 year old battery + a few Teams calls = 🪫

[agilwolf]

Someone started a WhatsApp group for those that want to get involved in getting their refunds from Hectic ...  See link below to join the group.

 

Hectic! Refund please

[agilwolf]

Statement from Gauteng Cycling regarding Tshwane Classic, issued earlier today ...

Gauteng Cycling Statement

[Vetplant]

6 minutes ago, agilwolf said:

Statement from Gauteng Cycling regarding Tshwane Classic, issued earlier today ...

Gauteng Cycling Statement

In the comments....

[Barry]

1 minute ago, Vetplant said:

In the comments....

A last hit and run??

[FaizelSalie_01]

If Gauteng Cycling is representing cyclists, should they not put pressure on Hectic Promotions to refund the cyclists or at least suspend HP as an event organizer until there is satisfactorily resolution? 

[Skubarra]

14 minutes ago, agilwolf said:

Statement from Gauteng Cycling regarding Tshwane Classic, issued earlier today ...

Gauteng Cycling Statement

Maybe something could be said about the late changes asked by the municipality, but more so - how badly must you suck at events planning to get to within 2 days of your event without having written approval from the municipality? A competent organiser would have had approvals in place months in advance, and if not wouldn't open for entries.

[agilwolf]

3 minutes ago, FaizelSalie_01 said:

If Gauteng Cycling is representing cyclists, should they not put pressure on Hectic Promotions to refund the cyclists or at least suspend HP as an event organizer until there is satisfactorily resolution? 

Agreed on the basis that HP is already Blacklisted (based on information shared on another platform) for the Central Gauteng Region and is not allowed to host / present in the region.  However they're still allowed for North Gauteng.

[Frosty]

10 minutes ago, Skubarra said:

Maybe something could be said about the late changes asked by the municipality, but more so - how badly must you suck at events planning to get to within 2 days of your event without having written approval from the municipality? A competent organiser would have had approvals in place months in advance, and if not wouldn't open for entries.

It’s not as simple as that, and I’m in no way defending this specific organiser. Approval could be given a month in advance and something forces a change. The JOC at the council needs to be advised. They are made up of all emergency services and council departments, and they aren’t always available. I’ve been involved with my club’s race since 2006, and we’ve never had approval longer than a few weeks before the event. It’s something we have to deal with.

The problem here is promising things like 80% road closure, in the hope that critical mass will be reached in participants, to then cover the extra costs. If most races are getting less than 2000 entries, excluding 947, what makes an organiser think they will get more than that. 

[The Ouzo]

16 minutes ago, Frosty said:

It’s not as simple as that, and I’m in no way defending this specific organiser. Approval could be given a month in advance and something forces a change. The JOC at the council needs to be advised. They are made up of all emergency services and council departments, and they aren’t always available. I’ve been involved with my club’s race since 2006, and we’ve never had approval longer than a few weeks before the event. It’s something we have to deal with.

The problem here is promising things like 80% road closure, in the hope that critical mass will be reached in participants, to then cover the extra costs. If most races are getting less than 2000 entries, excluding 947, what makes an organiser think they will get more than that. 

This entire debacle smells like HP trying to cut corners hoping they could just push everything through.