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A new gremlin has popped up with me. On longer rides of over 3 hours my right foot becomes rather hot, like fiery hot and causes discomfort.

I use flat pedals and my shoes are probably about 4-5 years old. Could it be a simple matter of replacing my shoes with newer and better ones? Never had this before and this is a rather recent thing

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What worked for me was adding arch support after the original one had compressed and not tightening my shoes too much, I found I did this when I had thick socks on. not sure why they helped but they have for me.

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Make sure you don't have Morton's Neuroma

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mortons-neuroma/symptoms-causes/syc-20351935#:~:text=Morton's neuroma involves a thickening,numbness in the affected toes.

I had/have this and had to get special inserts made by a foot specialist for my cycling shoes. Which reduces the pain but doesn't solve it. I can pinpoint it on the ball of my left foot between the small 4th toe so I also used gel toe separators you can get at Dikskem - After about 18 months i can ride without the gel pads and the insert, but if i do a lot of climbing I can feel it coming back during a ride but not as bad as it was. 

Foot specialist said a permanent cure is to have the nerve cut out, but then you will have a dead spot on the ball of your foot and it feels like you walking with a coin in your shoe - Havn.t gone that route yet. 

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1 hour ago, WaynejG said:

A new gremlin has popped up with me. On longer rides of over 3 hours my right foot becomes rather hot, like fiery hot and causes discomfort.

I use flat pedals and my shoes are probably about 4-5 years old. Could it be a simple matter of replacing my shoes with newer and better ones? Never had this before and this is a rather recent thing

According to some folks: 

Your foot swells from the heat and if the shoe is too tight then your feet start burning like cray cray. I have also found that some socks create this burn as well (If you want me to name the brand then send me a dm). But ya, try the following as a free way to see if it can provide a fix: 

  • Change the brand of socks 
  • Before lacing or tightening your shoe try to make a fist with your toes i.e. pull your toes underneath your foot (you know what I mean - stop giggling). Then with your foot in that position fasten the shoe. Now relax your toes - you will find the shoe sits quite loose on your foot but as time goes by it will become a bit more snug 
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My right foot also feels eina after 4 hours or so in summer heat. Like a headache, the discomfort slowly rises. So, I:

- bought shoes with a wide toe box for extra space for my platvoete, no negotiation on this even if I see a shoe I like that doesn't come in that preferred size.

- adjust the boa dials way before the eina begins even if I feel a bit less control over my pedal stroke

- I understand that this is a heat thing as I never struggle in winter.

Getting the contact points right and precise - bars, saddles, pedals - is key.

Sterkte, WaynejG

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4 hours ago, madmarc said:

Make sure you don't have Morton's Neuroma

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mortons-neuroma/symptoms-causes/syc-20351935#:~:text=Morton's neuroma involves a thickening,numbness in the affected toes.

I had/have this and had to get special inserts made by a foot specialist for my cycling shoes. Which reduces the pain but doesn't solve it. I can pinpoint it on the ball of my left foot between the small 4th toe so I also used gel toe separators you can get at Dikskem - After about 18 months i can ride without the gel pads and the insert, but if i do a lot of climbing I can feel it coming back during a ride but not as bad as it was. 

Foot specialist said a permanent cure is to have the nerve cut out, but then you will have a dead spot on the ball of your foot and it feels like you walking with a coin in your shoe - Havn.t gone that route yet. 

Also thought this. Best to check it out if it matches what you are feeling. My wife’s mortons got quite bad and she had to have surgery on it. 

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Buy some Lake Shoes and get your cleats fitted correctly. The correct fitting is paramount to fixing this problem.

I had the same with all makes and finally got to the video on youtube about which are the best mtb shoes. It seemed pretty unanimous that Lake makes one of the best. I havent had any issues since and often do 4 hours or more.

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I have also found that some socks create this burn as well (If you want me to name the brand then send me a dm)

I have had that with a certain brand of socks as well . My problem was pulling the socks on too tight over my toes ( not leaving any space or play for your toes to wiggle naturally .Once i identified the sock brand and why it was happening i was good to go .

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8 hours ago, madmarc said:

Make sure you don't have Morton's Neuroma

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mortons-neuroma/symptoms-causes/syc-20351935#:~:text=Morton's neuroma involves a thickening,numbness in the affected toes.

I had/have this and had to get special inserts made by a foot specialist for my cycling shoes. Which reduces the pain but doesn't solve it. I can pinpoint it on the ball of my left foot between the small 4th toe so I also used gel toe separators you can get at Dikskem - After about 18 months i can ride without the gel pads and the insert, but if i do a lot of climbing I can feel it coming back during a ride but not as bad as it was. 

Foot specialist said a permanent cure is to have the nerve cut out, but then you will have a dead spot on the ball of your foot and it feels like you walking with a coin in your shoe - Havn.t gone that route yet. 

Don't. I cut my arm off 10 years ago. It's never the same without that nerve. My hand goes haywire sometimes. Even though I have full use. Rather live with the little discomfort 

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8 hours ago, madmarc said:

Make sure you don't have Morton's Neuroma

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mortons-neuroma/symptoms-causes/syc-20351935#:~:text=Morton's neuroma involves a thickening,numbness in the affected toes.

I had/have this and had to get special inserts made by a foot specialist for my cycling shoes. Which reduces the pain but doesn't solve it. I can pinpoint it on the ball of my left foot between the small 4th toe so I also used gel toe separators you can get at Dikskem - After about 18 months i can ride without the gel pads and the insert, but if i do a lot of climbing I can feel it coming back during a ride but not as bad as it was. 

Foot specialist said a permanent cure is to have the nerve cut out, but then you will have a dead spot on the ball of your foot and it feels like you walking with a coin in your shoe - Havn.t gone that route yet. 

 

5 hours ago, 'Dale said:

My right foot also feels eina after 4 hours or so in summer heat. Like a headache, the discomfort slowly rises. So, I:

- bought shoes with a wide toe box for extra space for my platvoete, no negotiation on this even if I see a shoe I like that doesn't come in that preferred size.

- adjust the boa dials way before the eina begins even if I feel a bit less control over my pedal stroke

- I understand that this is a heat thing as I never struggle in winter.

Getting the contact points right and precise - bars, saddles, pedals - is key.

Sterkte, WaynejG

What shoes did you get. Because my flippers needs an extra wide. 

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9 hours ago, WaynejG said:

A new gremlin has popped up with me. On longer rides of over 3 hours my right foot becomes rather hot, like fiery hot and causes discomfort.

I use flat pedals and my shoes are probably about 4-5 years old. Could it be a simple matter of replacing my shoes with newer and better ones? Never had this before and this is a rather recent thing

More weight. Maybe your saddle dropped a bit and now you are pressing differently. Also if your shoe becomes very soft at the bottom your door can twist a little. Try new shoes first. If not try the fit option. Then doc. I would do it that way. You can even try some other normal shoes you have to ride with that sit Comfortable. 

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I had a similar issue a while back, a stiffer shoe with a proper shoe insert to cater for my foot (Specialized blue insert) solved it for me.

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