Who is going to bag all Five monuments next?

[DieselnDust]

Degenkolb is missing. He’s a lot closer to 5 than Pidcock.

alex Kristoff? 2 monument wins.

if you want to only include <30year olds….

 

[Jbr]

5 hours ago, Frosty said:

I would vote: Unlikely to happen, as “Never” is a long time.

Between MvdP and Pogačar:

I think MvdP stands a better chance given that he’s done all 5 monuments; we know what he’s capable of. 6th at LBL, 10th at Lombardia but 6 minutes down. This could be his missing one due to the nature of the course.

[Jbr]

Just now, Jbr said:

5 hours ago, Frosty said:

I would vote: Unlikely to happen, as “Never” is a long time.

Between MvdP and Pogačar:

I think MvdP stands a better chance given that he’s done all 5 monuments; we know what he’s capable of. 6th at LBL, 10th at Lombardia but 6 minutes down. This could be his missing one due to the nature of the course.

Damn, once you go back too much to the left then it's impossible to write a message after your quote, even on the PC...

 

Anyways, 100% agree with what is said. I think unlikely but if I should pick one from the 3 fantastics, it would probably be VdP on his current form, Van Aert on last years form (he's shown to be able to sprint with the best, roll solo in front of the faster ever tour de france, go over climbs and wait for his leader at the top...). Pog I don't see winning a Paris Roubaix, but I mean, anything I think he can't do he does...

[Wyatt Earp]

Don’t see an option to vote for Lance 

 

[Jewbacca]

I'm in the 'likely to not be in my lifetime' camp, but to throw some nonsensical theories.......

The Pog if he rides a proper bike.....

WvA if he can tame his own aggression 

MvdP if he can pull a trick at MSR, which I wouldn't discount as he seems to have a very systemic, realistic approach to the amount of racing and winning he can do in a season.

Mahoric? 

I wonder why Marc Hirschi was never able to get his form back. That guy at one point looked like he was pure class and duked out some amazing races.

Pidcock is generational, Remco is generational. I find neither of them particularly engaging which makes supporting them difficult for me. Amazing to watch the talent on display, but not very enthralling

We really are in a golden era of bike racing. Enjoy it

Edited April 11, 2023 by Jewbacca

[jcza]

8 hours ago, Jewbacca said:

I'm in the 'likely to not be in my lifetime' camp, but to throw some nonsensical theories.......

The Pog if he rides a proper bike.....

WvA if he can tame his own aggression 

MvdP if he can pull a trick at MSR, which I wouldn't discount as he seems to have a very systemic, realistic approach to the amount of racing and winning he can do in a season.

Mahoric? 

I wonder why Marc Hirschi was never able to get his form back. That guy at one point looked like he was pure class and duked out some amazing races.

Pidcock is generational, Remco is generational. I find neither of them particularly engaging which makes supporting them difficult for me. Amazing to watch the talent on display, but not very enthralling

We really are in a golden era of bike racing. Enjoy it

I think you missed MvPs victory at MSR. (Unless it’s another trick of course) 

[Shebeen]

15 hours ago, DieselnDust said:

Degenkolb is missing. He’s a lot closer to 5 than Pidcock.

alex Kristoff? 2 monument wins.

if you want to only include <30year olds….

 

 Phil Gil is even closer than them. Pidcock has youth on his side and is possibly never even going to be a classics rider. But the other two will be on the couch soon so have missed the window. here is Degenstache's classics results since winning PR in 2015, not many top results there and you can't win LBL or Lombardia if you don't enter them.

 

[Shebeen]

14 hours ago, Wyatt Earp said:

Don’t see an option to vote for Lance 

 

since you asked, here is Juan Pelota's classics record

 

two podiums precancer at LBL.  I think the rest post cancer were just training rides as TdF was the one and only race on the calendar under JB, He never even started Lombardia (or PR)

[Jewbacca]

9 hours ago, jcza said:

I think you missed MvPs victory at MSR. (Unless it’s another trick of course) 

Sorry, LBL. My bad

I got excited. 

I think MvdP is definitely the most likely candidate. If he focusses on Lombardia 2024 and LBL after he wins that it would be achievable. 

Anyway, head in shame after that. hahaha

[Shebeen]

la pistolera says Pog

 

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/mathieu-van-der-poel-and-tadej-pogacar-both-hold-3-monuments-can-one-of-them-win-all-5-im-going-for-pogacar-alberto-contador-says

 

 

[NickGM]

41 minutes ago, Shebeen said:

la pistolera says Pog

 

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/mathieu-van-der-poel-and-tadej-pogacar-both-hold-3-monuments-can-one-of-them-win-all-5-im-going-for-pogacar-alberto-contador-says

 

 

That's "El Pistolero" sir!

I am an MvDP fanboy but I think Il Lombardia might be beyond him. For me Pog and WvA are the two riders with the skillset to bag all 5.

[betaboy]

The Pog is the only guy who could shake a stick at these, but his season would need to be altered. The classic racers are always going to be hard to beat.

[Shebeen]

LBL this weekend.

WvA and MvdP have gone back to base, but Pog looks like he could win any bike race on the planet currently anyway.

 

anyone else have a chance?

 

[Frosty]

5 minutes ago, Shebeen said:

Pog looks like he could win any bike race on the planet currently anyway.

anyone else have a chance?

He says it in the interview (2:10) that he’s lucky to be able to win, while he can. I believe making hay while the sun shines is appropriate.

 

[Shebeen]

basically a year on. Pog and MvdP have won more races, but both remain on the same 3 monuments in the race for all 5. WvA hasn't raced one since.

I think it's only possible for Pog

 

MvdP

or WvA

Pog: has got the results at MSR to show he could win it, and I guess it's far away enough from the GTs that he will easily keep entering it enough times to takes it eventually. Paris roubaix seems very difficult but if he has all 4 and wants to complete the titles then we could see something special.

MvdP: he could win LBL in a fortnight, (or not). He did somehow sneak a top10 at his only Lombardia in 2020, but just like Pog/PRoubaix would probably need to change his season to win that.

WvA:probably remains the best chance at winning all 5. Just needs to want to do it (be allowed).

 

I don't see anyone else pulling this off going forward, maybe Remco.