Pappa Bear

My first question to the club: How will you engage with SANparks - Do you have a replacment for Deon, now that he left?

Thanks for answering Flowta. So what if only DHers or a majority of DHers turns up at the AGM? Will they still look after ALL trails?

I am only a "nay sayer" because I believe the new group will not be able to sucesefully takeover. They have already "removed" Deon, the one key guy from Tokai by bullying / pushing him out.

Might be a little late but relevant non the less...... I have a couple of questions for Vince / : 1) The concerned riders – are they representing the full user group of Tokai or only the DH users, which is a small % of the users? 2) What do you think SANParks attitude will be towards the club if the committee composes of guys that were knowingly building illegal trails in Tokai? 3) Have notices been placed at the Tokai entrance so that ALL users are notified about the first AGM? Everybody don’t subscribe to the Hub or DH FB pages. 4) What will this new committee do different than Deon? Yes I know they will build better trails but HOW will they do it. What is your plan? Do you have 20 guys lined up and ready to dig and you have your relationship with SANParks sorted? All requirements met that Deon had in place? My concerns: 1) Only the DH will be represented in the new club resulting in 10% of the users calling shots for 100% of the trails 2) You don’t have a relationship with SANParks – you were recently building illegal trails in Tokai – SANParks won’t trust you since you showed that you din’t give a damm about their rules before 3) The “new club” members will disappear after 1 or 2 trails and then the rest of the users with sit with the resulting issues Going forward: 1) Get a club going which represents ALL disciplines or form a Tokai DH club that will only look after the DH trails. 2) The workings of “Tokai trail builders” should stay as is for the interim until the new MTB club has found its feet and provided a proper plan on the way forward and their intentions for Tokai 3) Failing the above maintenance and trail building will drop to a null resulting in so much more issues for the new club *** Wasn’t the new double black in Jonkers build in summer?

So one guy managed to organize trails and maintenance without a tokai MTB club! Hats of to that guy. And the new club will have BIG shoes to fill. Based on they way that this situation is handled made me very sceptic to trust the "new" team..... POS has a good reputation and did alot of work...... the new guys? they are just throwing their weight around and criticizing.... I dont like the tactics and if this is they way the "new" tokai club will conduct business, i sure as hell wont trust them with tokai's trails. I hope you guys are in for the long run and that we don't read, in a years time, how XC trails and DH trails need maintenance and how tokais MTB club was nothing but a flash in the pan! Good luck, because we are going to need it.......

So in summary...... 1. Deon builds "crap" trails but he is the only one building trails. 2. Somebody else now wants "better" trails ( I specifically didn't say want to built better trails..... as there is apparently "other" means to built as volunteer days)..... 3. You want Deon to stay on and be you contact with SANPARKS as he has the know how and more importantly the relationship....something the "others" don't have..... This looks like a loose loose situation to Deon..... He need to do all the hard work and sort SANParks out, and I promise you the first guy that will be blamed when no new trail can be built or maintenance is an issue would be Deon, because he is the SANParks contact... The way in which this whole AGM came about is not on... yeah I read the nasty FB comments and can see whats going on. I DON'T TRUST YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU ARE SCREWING OVER A FELLOW MOUNTAINBIKER

It seems that more than the trees was slaughtered at Tokai.......

Do they still have the Honda bike there?

what's the wheel size?!? Serioulsy cool.....

Cheating is like NOT whipping your ass........you only fool yourselve.

HOLY EGOLI!!!! That looks like the devil climbing out of the cell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My wife always cracks herself if people phone and ask for Pappa Bear................

Santa Cruz all the way....... Reasons? Heritage......Nomad, bullit, tallboys, V10, Greg minaar, steve peat, heckler...... Yup i like cruz....

How durable is the plasti dip?

Moer hom, then with the book and then let Wayne moer hom! Glad its sorted!

A great trail for beginners is meerendal. Nice sinlge track and not technical. Time...... i would say around 9ish, but most guys are friendly and patient. Otherwise give jonkershoek a try more demanding but lots and lots of space. Best would be to get a"guide" or hubber to ride with in jonkers, not to get lost:-)

Rubbish sine it isn't practical due to the following: 1. If mud or rocks get stuck in the tires you ARE going to feel it. 2. That wheel will splash water like a fountain if you cross a stream 3. Not adjustable to rider weight or terrain - you can see there is 0 deflection in the tires when this guy rides it, so it hasn't even been setup correct for him 4. Price??? Bet you it will be more than a normal tire and tube

Incredible, well done to the lady. I see the bike cost $33k !

Irideafrica is his best bet.

He knew the dangers of that hill as it wasn't the first time he went up there......

Post pics from the CCTV, that way we can keep an eye out or we might even recognise the scums....

MEGA AVALANCHE!

Tried it and got a warning point.......

How about we change the troll to a small d1ck stamp?