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When I saw this post this morning I bet myself that it would go nowhere. Voila,I won and I'm off to buy myself a six pack. Shame on all of you for not reaching agreement but thanks anyway!

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ESPN Sport Science: Impact of Extreme Cold Weather on Athletic Performance

 

Been doing some research on the subject:

 

Maybe look at this yourself, it's really is interesting.

 

Grip strength - reduced by 50%

Reaction time - reduced by 45 %

Equipment - also affected (PSI, Size, etc)

 

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I don't know so much scotty.

 

The way I see it, the thread is in the chair and the other oke is us.

 

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f68/65353d1193793967-hijack-thread-48sep26-party-flamer.jpg

 

Is it still a one hour penal tea if it's a spray-on warmie?

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Dear thehubsa,

 

I have a confession to make. I have been feeling like this for some time but am afraid to make it public in case my friends ridicule me and call me names like moffie, sweetie pie, poofah and ass spelunker.

 

I like Burry, Suzie, Kevin AND David.

 

I know this is not normal - will I be ok? Can someone teach me to HTFU so I can also insult any one of those 4 based on rumour, speculation and candy floss?

 

Your in closet exiting,

 

Eldron.

Put 60 grit sandpaper in your chamois and go for a 30 k ride.... :devil:

 

These matter that feel so overwhelming will become nothing compared to that memory :thumbup:

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So 360Life lost six minutes on this day with a cut tyre. wow, they have the WORST luck with tyres.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl8NFXEKkBk

 

Looks like a spesh jacket to me not a leather one, must have come from team manager/support then? I don't think they should have taken it, especially so close to the end. If they started with a jacket, should have kept it instead of turfing it. you mean to say that a pro team like that can't get a proper weather forecast and a light enough rain jacket. but anyway, it's water under the bridge now, especially since it wasn't swept under the carpet if the commissaires made a decision then and there.

 

 

I was in Dr Evils store in April and he told me about this incident, he said that there are different rules for Burry and Christof.

I don't think this guy is impartial enough to be setting the route to be honest. I heard he isn't even a real doctor too!

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Wow, I spend a day away from my computer and all hell breaks loose.

 

Having read all thirteen pages of this fred, it is clear who has read the article, and who is making up what thye think it might say.

 

The story is filled with nasty theory-ruiners caled facts. And is told from all sides. It does not make anybody out to be whiners or whingers, it doesn't make any accusations (if anybody should be nailed here, it is the UCI for not having the balls to act on a high-profile transgression), it just sets out the truth.

 

Personally, I think Burry and Christoff got lucky. Who was going to protest and look like a chop? Burry knowingly, openly broke the rules (the decision that conditions were dangerous were made after the leaders have finished, from what I have been told ) and was not punished.

 

Should his transgression have cost him the Epic win? Probably not (although, had he gone hypothermic because he didn't plan properly, maybe it should).

 

Should he have been allowed to keep the stage win - nobody mentions it here, but it is the Bulls team, I think they finished second on the day, who really got shafted here - I don't think so.

 

Should he and Christoff have sat up and not contested it, or even dropped back to ride with David and Kevin, almost like in F1 when you give back the place if you took it by cutting a chicane - definitely.

 

It would appear neither Burry nor Christoff think too clearly about the right way of doing things - jumping fences to ride parts of the Epic route illegally (should Christoff actually have been riding the Epic, having broken that rule?), and going off on twitter about an alleged protest about a shirt (an earlier poster needs to get his facts straight on that one), whithout finding out the truth first (I wonder if Burry ever apologised to Kevin or David for that one?).

 

It all leaves a sour taste in the mouth, and Vermaak and the UCI should have done something about it at the time, even if that something was difficult or unpopular. The rules, especially for the pros, must be absolute.

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At Ironman South Africa this year a guy got disqualified 200m from the finish for outside assistance after his (non-competing) mate ran with him for a bit. It was adjudged to be pacing. This after a day marked by 80km/h winds, ugly choppy seas and a very cold run in the rain...

 

Rules is rules.

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Wow, I spend a day away from my computer and all hell breaks loose.

 

Having read all thirteen pages of this fred, it is clear who has read the article, and who is making up what thye think it might say.

 

The story is filled with nasty theory-ruiners caled facts. And is told from all sides. It does not make anybody out to be whiners or whingers, it doesn't make any accusations (if anybody should be nailed here, it is the UCI for not having the balls to act on a high-profile transgression), it just sets out the truth.

 

Personally, I think Burry and Christoff got lucky. Who was going to protest and look like a chop? Burry knowingly, openly broke the rules (the decision that conditions were dangerous were made after the leaders have finished, from what I have been told ) and was not punished.

 

Should his transgression have cost him the Epic win? Probably not (although, had he gone hypothermic because he didn't plan properly, maybe it should).

 

Should he have been allowed to keep the stage win - nobody mentions it here, but it is the Bulls team, I think they finished second on the day, who really got shafted here - I don't think so.

 

Should he and Christoff have sat up and not contested it, or even dropped back to ride with David and Kevin, almost like in F1 when you give back the place if you took it by cutting a chicane - definitely.

 

It would appear neither Burry nor Christoff think too clearly about the right way of doing things - jumping fences to ride parts of the Epic route illegally (should Christoff actually have been riding the Epic, having broken that rule?), and going off on twitter about an alleged protest about a shirt (an earlier poster needs to get his facts straight on that one), whithout finding out the truth first (I wonder if Burry ever apologised to Kevin or David for that one?).

 

It all leaves a sour taste in the mouth, and Vermaak and the UCI should have done something about it at the time, even if that something was difficult or unpopular. The rules, especially for the pros, must be absolute.

 

well written post

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I see your point, but I was there and the temperature mid way through plummeted, the wind chill factor was huge and it occurred on a section that did not require you to pedal, or was not possible to pedal through. You could not have forseen this and thus the scramble for warmth.

 

I watched as a friend of mine stood in front of me - BLUE, passed out on her feet, eyes rolling back in her head, shaking uncontrollably and still wanting to continue. I would have given her my only raincoat but it was too little too late. She did not continue under orders from the medic. She could have passed out while descending and killed herself.

 

Which transgression is worse?

 

Kevin and David struggled with a puncture on stage 2/3 and lost 10-15 minutes stopping a few times... You say race strategy? Should they not have specified more puncture resistant tires?

 

Originally the race rules did not allow for replacement wheels etc at tech zones...now they do. The race will evolve, the racing got better as teams weren't out of the game if they suffered a failure.

I reckon the organisers can change rules if it involves health at risk and that is probably what happend

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