weekly tss score

[Jurgens Smit]

But is TSS not about your effort (HR or otherwise) over a period of time rather than max HR? #NotAnExpert

 

Yes, but that's the point.

 

Take for example my workout last night:

 

6Km run(84.4rTSS)

 

Then

Squat set

(reps - 10/10/5/5/3/3/3/1/1/1) @ 80Kg ramping up to 110 Kg

Finishing with Cindy:

as many rounds in 20 minutes as you can of: 5 Pull-ups 10 Push-ups 15 Squats

 

My HR is Sky high for the majority of the session, but I can only log the run

[Jakkals.]

Yes, but that's the point.

 

Take for example my workout last night:

 

6Km run(84.4rTSS)

 

Then

Squat set

(reps - 10/10/5/5/3/3/3/1/1/1) @ 80Kg ramping up to 110 Kg

Finishing with Cindy:

as many rounds in 20 minutes as you can of: 5 Pull-ups 10 Push-ups 15 Squats

 

My HR is Sky high for the majority of the session, but I can only log the run

quit xfit. problem solved

[shaper]

Its not pulling any data to reflect my TSS? I had to add the metric trends manually though, wasnt on my version. not a train smash. just nice to have.

Which version of GC are you using?  I have updated to the latest build, Version 3.5 Build 1705, been using it since it was released on April 29th and is pretty stable

[NotSoBigBen]

Yes, but that's the point.

 

Take for example my workout last night:

 

6Km run(84.4rTSS)

 

Then

Squat set

(reps - 10/10/5/5/3/3/3/1/1/1) @ 80Kg ramping up to 110 Kg

Finishing with Cindy:

as many rounds in 20 minutes as you can of: 5 Pull-ups 10 Push-ups 15 Squats

 

My HR is Sky high for the majority of the session, but I can only log the run

 

Besides the running that went over my head, sorry mate 

[Sparkles]

Joe Friel suggests using 50 TSS for an hour of strength training as a "baseline" and then adjusting based on perceived effort from there.

 

http://www.joefrielsblog.com/2016/02/the-weightlifting-pmc-part-2.html

 

Definitely not a perfect system, but to me it "feels" right compared to other sessions.

Edited May 30, 2017 by Sparkles

[Jakkals.]

Which version of GC are you using?  I have updated to the latest build, Version 3.5 Build 1705, been using it since it was released on April 29th and is pretty stable

3.4. I'm on a mac so rather wait the Beta time out before I update. 

[NotSoBigBen]

I know this will probably not go down well and it is just in my humble (layman) opinion but I'm not in favour of using data that is not measured and calculated towards my CTL (TSS) . RPE is rather a difficult thing to quantify at least in my experience.

 

As an example for myself ... if for some reason I have no HR/Power data for a session I do not manually try to guess and add in that session I just have to 'Frozen' it and let it .......

[Veebee]

Yes, but that's the point.

 

Take for example my workout last night:

 

6Km run(84.4rTSS)

 

Then

Squat set

(reps - 10/10/5/5/3/3/3/1/1/1) @ 80Kg ramping up to 110 Kg

Finishing with Cindy:

as many rounds in 20 minutes as you can of: 5 Pull-ups 10 Push-ups 15 Squats

 

My HR is Sky high for the majority of the session, but I can only log the run

 

looking back at some workouts, TP doesn't calculate a TSS for a strength session. But maybe its possible with some change in settings, will look into it.

 

[Jurgens Smit]

looking back at some workouts, TP doesn't calculate a TSS for a strength session. But maybe its possible with some change in settings, will look into it.

 

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How does TP calculate the calories?

[Veebee]

How does TP calculate the calories?

 

assume just a baseline calculation done on duration. Other option would be is to just use your watch on an indoor run / workout mode ? I will try that tomorrow.

[andydude]

Joe Friel suggests using 50 TSS for an hour of strength training as a "baseline" and then adjusting based on perceived effort from there.

 

http://www.joefrielsblog.com/2016/02/the-weightlifting-pmc-part-2.html

 

Definitely not a perfect system, but to me it "feels" right compared to other sessions.

That's great, thanks.

 

I have been reading a lot about the tss and pros and cons.

 

Take for example cycling vs weights. Obviously both put stress on your body, but how to measure each? Cycling is easier, because the power/hr is a good proxy for cardovascular stress. Weights/strength is muscular so the hr won't be as good a proxy, but can still be used. But you can do weights in zone 3 and 'destroy' your muscles!

 

And then also, your have stress from work and family and sickness that should theoretically be added to a type of overall stress. That's why it's important to make notes with your training to understand how the tss, atl, ctl and tsb numbers relate to you. You might perform very differently with the same training numbers due to other stresses.

[Sparkles]

I know this will probably not go down well and it is just in my humble (layman) opinion but I'm not in favour of using data that is not measured and calculated towards my CTL (TSS) . RPE is rather a difficult thing to quantify at least in my experience.

 

As an example for myself ... if for some reason I have no HR/Power data for a session I do not manually try to guess and add in that session I just have to 'Frozen' it and let it .......

 

It probably has something to do with your primary purpose of using the PMC.  If your number one goal is on your fitness (CTL) then I would also be weary to "claim" something towards my fitness measurement that is not reliable.. 

 

However, if you use it primarily to understand your form (TSB) I would think that you are ignoring a part of the equation by not logging a workout that caused stress on your body.

[Jurgens Smit]

That's great, thanks.

 

I have been reading a lot about the tss and pros and cons.

 

Take for example cycling vs weights. Obviously both put stress on your body, but how to measure each? Cycling is easier, because the power/hr is a good proxy for cardovascular stress. Weights/strength is muscular so the hr won't be as good a proxy, but can still be used. But you can do weights in zone 3 and 'destroy' your muscles!

 

And then also, your have stress from work and family and sickness that should theoretically be added to a type of overall stress. That's why it's important to make notes with your training to understand how the tss, atl, ctl and tsb numbers relate to you. You might perform very differently with the same training numbers due to other stresses.

 

I'd like to find a way to get it as accurate as possible.

 

1 idea with which I've been toying is to convert each squat into a effort of watts. With that effort per set you can calculate NP/avg using the TP formulas.**

 

The other would be to mark your session as an IDT workout and just measure HR.

 

**Squats would be the easiest to measure. But I'm sure a formula/Algorithm can be calculated for other exercises (where weights are involved)

Edited May 30, 2017 by Jurgens Smit

[thisismyotherbike]

 

The other would be to mark your session as an IDT workout and just measure HR.

 

 

That's been my approach.  It measures pretty low but I'm happy with it

[NotSoBigBen]

It probably has something to do with your primary purpose of using the PMC.  If your number one goal is on your fitness (CTL) then I would also be weary to "claim" something towards my fitness measurement that is not reliable.. 

 

However, if you use it primarily to understand your form (TSB) I would think that you are ignoring a part of the equation by not logging a workout that caused stress on your body.

 

You are 100% correct I would say .... if you were an elite athlete wanting to win races by being 100% ready for your next event then that would be crucial. For a weekend warrior such as myself, I just want to try keep my fitness at a decent level and keep an eye on that only

[andydude]

I'd like to find a way to get it as accurate as possible.

 

1 idea with which I've been toying is to convert each squat into a effort of watts. With that effort per set you can calculate NP/avg using the TP formulas.**

 

The other would be to mark your session as an IDT workout and just measure HR.

 

**Squats would be the easiest to measure. But I'm sure a formula/Algorithm can be calculated for other exercises (where weights are involved)

That's the kind of things I'm also thinking about.

 

I would say that there are two negatives in using your hr for strength training. One is that you will overestimate your fitness, because weights increase hr, but not really your cardio fitness. Two is that you will underestimate your fatigue/overestimate your form, for the same reason as one.

 

The big problem is that you are trying to add apples by counting oranges. TSS works for all endurance sports, because the principle is the same. But how do you add a muscular orange to an endurance apple?

 

Let me think and read a bit.

 

Any ideas?