weekly tss score

[Jurgens Smit]

So my first algorithm had an assumption in that leads to a major flaw. Due to the way a squat/deadlift works the last few cm are easier. Thus one can't approximate the distance the weight travelled to get it to Nm.

 

The basis is to convert the mass to Newtons and then Newtons to watt.

As per physics conversion laws 1watt = 1Nm/s

Mass to Newton = mass x 9.8

 

Revised formula = 

 

distance(mass x 9.8) (Note - this is per second) 

 

So one would have to either avg the entire set or work on Tempo Squats / Deadlifts

I prefer Tempo and used 2sec up (essentially you are at Nm/2sec)

 

thus you get

 

0.5(distance(mass x 9.8)) watts

 

So for my work out, each set averaged:

 

0.5(8/10(588)) = 235.2 watts per squat (60kg)

This is a constant effort, so basically its 235.2 watts for about 40secs work

 

According to a tss calculator this equates to about 15 TSS on my current FTP. for just the squat set. Deadlifts would give me another +-10 TSS and the remainder of the workout another 10-15(skipping rope and HIIT exercises) 

Essentially I would have been at around 40-50 TSS in half an hour

 

 

 

 

 

The closer the watts you squat is to your FTP, the higher your TSS will be, but also the harder the exercises get.

 

What I have figured with this is, the best is still to use a hr monitor, and then if you are up to the calculations do the powerand manually add them when you log your workout.

 

The best application of this is if you were to exercise in your 'Maximal zone'; ie train in the power levels where you would be sprinting at. 

 

 

If I made any mistakes please point the out. I've been writing Calculus and Multi-derivable Calculus this week, so my mind has been focused elsewhere    

 

[Jakkals.]

Missed one training ride due to knee, but think I've sorted it out with a wedge...

 

TSS: 606

IF: 0.759

[andydude]

So my first algorithm had an assumption in that leads to a major flaw. Due to the way a squat/deadlift works the last few cm are easier. Thus one can't approximate the distance the weight travelled to get it to Nm.

 

The basis is to convert the mass to Newtons and then Newtons to watt.

As per physics conversion laws 1watt = 1Nm/s

Mass to Newton = mass x 9.8

 

Revised formula =

 

distance(mass x 9.8) (Note - this is per second)

 

So one would have to either avg the entire set or work on Tempo Squats / Deadlifts

I prefer Tempo and used 2sec up (essentially you are at Nm/2sec)

 

thus you get

 

0.5(distance(mass x 9.8)) watts

 

So for my work out, each set averaged:

 

0.5(8/10(588)) = 235.2 watts per squat (60kg)

This is a constant effort, so basically its 235.2 watts for about 40secs work

 

According to a tss calculator this equates to about 15 TSS on my current FTP. for just the squat set. Deadlifts would give me another +-10 TSS and the remainder of the workout another 10-15(skipping rope and HIIT exercises)

Essentially I would have been at around 40-50 TSS in half an hour

 

 

 

 

 

The closer the watts you squat is to your FTP, the higher your TSS will be, but also the harder the exercises get.

 

What I have figured with this is, the best is still to use a hr monitor, and then if you are up to the calculations do the powerand manually add them when you log your workout.

 

The best application of this is if you were to exercise in your 'Maximal zone'; ie train in the power levels where you would be sprinting at.

 

 

If I made any mistakes please point the out. I've been writing Calculus and Multi-derivable Calculus this week, so my mind has been focused elsewhere [emoji106]

Nice write up Jurgens. Thanks [emoji106]

 

Lots to think about although I'm still of the opinion that we're trying to compare apples to oranges. One is cardiovascular, one is muscular.

 

Have you found any papers looking at the benefit of doing weights to fitness, if any at all?

 

You know what, let me read your post again, and think, read, and then we can continue the discussion!

 

Thanks again [emoji108]

[Jurgens Smit]

Nice write up Jurgens. Thanks [emoji106]

 

Lots to think about although I'm still of the opinion that we're trying to compare apples to oranges. One is cardiovascular, one is muscular.

 

Have you found any papers looking at the benefit of doing weights to fitness, if any at all?

 

You know what, let me read your post again, and think, read, and then we can continue the discussion!

 

Thanks again [emoji108]

 

 

No probs, very interesting topic of discussion.

 

I have found all these links, but they mostly related to sedentary adults, or people with cardiovascular fitness.

 

https://scholar.google.co.za/scholar?q=weight+training+effect+on+cardiovascular+fitness&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiywriKpKfUAhXILsAKHWuaAuIQgQMIIDAA

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2626093 

[awesme]

... still on 0, 2 weeks now, not recovered yet, knocked my CTL=75 -> 50 atm and dropping like a lead balloon.

 

hope to be back on the bike on Sunday, then have scheduled some endurance only rides for me on the trainer for next week. Get back slowly, doing Mica 2 Provinces next weekend and then back into training mode.

 

G

[Veebee]

I don't have the brain power for all the complicated equations. A session from this morning, I set my watch to indoor cycle.

 

This was a overall workout, with 5 sets of leg press at the end. Planned session for Sunday is just legs so will track that again and see what TSS is achieved.

 

[Jakkals.]

and so goes, all of a sudden my "good" knee not so good anymore.

[warick_wrx]

and so goes, all of a sudden my "good" knee not so good anymore.

Perhaps..........too hard to soon 

[Jakkals.]

Perhaps..........too hard to soon 

perhaps, perhaps not....

[Eugene Oppelt]

and so goes, all of a sudden my "good" knee not so good anymore.

 

Uuurrggghhhhh ????

[Jakkals.]

not a bad week: very similar to last

 

TSS:585

IF:0.79

 

Recovery week this week.

[Veebee]

Bad week for me and another coming 2 coming up. Was busy with a workshop this past weekend, and I am away for 3 days this coming weekend.

 

TSS: 265

IF: 0.68

[Jurgens Smit]

TSS: 519

IF: 0.7

 

Time to step it up these next few weeks.

[Jaco-fiets]

I am starting a 8 week programme today. Weekly TSS will be around 400 to 500 but some good intensity work in there. I find these trainerroad programmes very helpful with the amount of time I have to work with in the week

[Jakkals.]

I am starting a 8 week programme today. Weekly TSS will be around 400 to 500 but some good intensity work in there. I find these trainerroad programmes very helpful with the amount of time I have to work with in the week

Good luck, keep at it.

[fanievb]

TSS: 579
IF: 87