Meezo Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Perhaps you should consider another country of residence. you reading it out of context, go thru the post again, in the context of the post he's statement is 100% correct!!! IMO and yes +10000000000000000000 to what Max Headroom said! Edited June 19, 2013 by Meezo johannrissik 1
davidl Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 In full agreement with Max Headroom. PPA has been the organisation that has done most for us funriders and the funriders have contributed largely to the growth of cycling. The pro ranks are a small circle. If not for funriders most bike shops would not be around today.I will not pay license fees to CSA. I would rather just pay PPA for membership. johannrissik 1
RocknRolla Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 you reading it out of context, go thru the post again, in the context of the post he's statement is 100% correct!!! IMO and yes +10000000000000000000 to what Max Headroom said! Not out of context at all. We live in South Africa, paying through our arses for **** we dont benefit from is the norm.Expecting a different result is foolish, in all aspects of South African life.
Showtime Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 I also thought about this but CSA is difference between cycling being a hobby and a sport. Are they perfect, probably not but as someone who likes cycling I don't mind paying R75 a year so our top cyclists can participate in their sport. rpedro 1
MTBc Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 I'm sure they check the hub and will respond ...... depends how many people have paid their licenses, they might have hit their internet cap and not be in a position to top up. NotSoBigBen and johannrissik 2
MTBc Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 YOUR NAME SOUNDS TOO MUCH LIKE DIPS I OWN DIPS increased font size to shout while shouting in caps... interesting.... facepalm, DIPSLICK and Warren911 3
DR ◣◢ Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Not out of context at all. We live in South Africa, paying through our arses for **** we dont benefit from is the norm.Expecting a different result is foolish, in all aspects of South African life. You pay and pay and pay because you accept it as the norm. Maybe try to be part of the change instead of just being part of the problem. RocknRolla 1
Slowbee Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Listen up CSA !I am just a nobody who wants to ride his bicycle ! If my local club (or association) can arrange safe routes with water tables - or even better new exciting MTB routes with water table support, so I can go ride till I'm pooped - that is perfect, I pay my membership fees. Once a year world cycle fun ride around the cape - perfect So, NO - I don't want to pay licence fees to CSA ! NO, I don't want to contribute to their admin costs, salaries, or sponsoring anybody (no offence to the pros) I just want to sponsor myself, my local association which arranges events for me and my own life enjoyment - I just want to ride my bike without having to pay pay pay for things I don't benefit by. I have seen very little from the CSA that benefits me - ie. Road Safety ! I'm a selfish guy - live with it ! This strikes me as odd. You want to ride your bike. No problem, ride your bike. Actually ride it where you like, when you like. But wait, you want to ride in a race, that is organised, so now you have to pay. That is different to riding your bike. It is your choice to belong to a club, to enter races. And there are loads of apps were you can prove yourself against others, world wide nogal. For free! If you are selfish, go ride your bike. But stay away from the races then. Simple. EZRider, owti1997, Showtime and 1 other 4
Meezo Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Not out of context at all. We live in South Africa, paying through our arses for **** we dont benefit from is the norm.Expecting a different result is foolish, in all aspects of South African life. Okay. Agree. But screw CSA is what he's saying which is what affects us as cyclists on this cycling forum, and in the context of the thread he's gunning them not the rest of our lovely(sarcasm) country. I think this another topic on it's own. CSA on the other hand.... Well ? PS: if there are any Americans reading this, Africa is not a country!!
RocknRolla Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 You pay and pay and pay because you accept it as the norm. Maybe try to be part of the change instead of just being part of the problem. well now - finally someone posted an incling of sense rather than just complain!! I am purely stating the obvious, I am not making excuses for CSA or PPA. In this whole saga, I only see one loser. Who here on the hub has time to "donate" to cycling as a sport in South Africa, and what would that person do to facilitate change?
Stretch Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 there is a whole thread dedicated this ppa vs csa debate. In reality the thread should have geographic IP filtering and be visible to those in the cape, cos in reality if you are not in the cape it means f all to the rest of us, and is now actually costing me money thanks to the PPA lawyers taking it to court.......bo hoo you have to pay an extra R30 to ride the argus - thats is like the price of an ounce of lube - really people! RocknRolla 1
RocknRolla Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 it is called Cycling South Africa, and not Cycling all provinces except for the Cape
DIPSLICK Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 there is a whole thread dedicated this ppa vs csa debate. In reality the thread should have geographic IP filtering and be visible to those in the cape, cos in reality if you are not in the cape it means f all to the rest of us, and is now actually costing me money thanks to the PPA lawyers taking it to court.......bo hoo you have to pay an extra R30 to ride the argus - thats is like the price of an ounce of lube - really people!WELL EXCUSE ME R30 buys me 2 beers, its alot of beer to some of us
ZakAttak Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 But who will pay them nice big salaries and support their drinking habits if we did not contribute ? Support their drinking habits so that they can drive drunk and ride us off our bikes? Not me, no Thanks!!!!
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