Is a Sub-3 really a Sub-3 . . . .

[fabs]

Getting a sub3 also depends on what group you are in at the start.

 

I had the ability to get a sub3 this year but did not materialise,

as I found there was no groups that formed around me.

 

This is key, as you find yourself doing most of the work alone,

and having to constantly overtake slower riders,

who do not have the riding sense to keep left.

 

I'm happy with the 3:20 I got, but will re-seed next year if not happy with my group.

Paying the extra seems to work wonders for your riding ability

[fandacious]

wait - is there really "sub3 kit"?

 

Wow you must be desperately compensating if you actually wear that

[andrewtheron]

Total elevation on Sunday: 1,313 m. Not an easy race by any stretch of the imagination!

 

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/405786441

[Wyatt Earp]

Total elevation on Sunday: 1,313 m. Not an easy race by any stretch of the imagination!

 

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/405786441

 

Ja, the race has a couple of nasty climbs.

I ended up on 1900 m for the day, riding there and back home.

[ichops]

No sorry you are wrong, its only from a sub three in the August that you get to wear kit like this (chicks version is all I could find)

Pity they don't sell it to only genuine sub 3 finishers - I was going to buy mine until I wasn't even asked to prove I had done a sub 3 - at the Argus Expo nogal

[Spinsei]

ja ja, I was told "slow and steady wins the race"

 

WRONG... apparently fast and steady was racing too.

 

Whenever anyone asks me what time I did I tell them "a two eighty five"

[ichops]

Remeber >> you are only as fast as the group you're in

And as tired as the group you are chasing !

[arendoog]

Last year i was as fit and strong as i will ever be and rode hard on mtb for a 3h20 from MM with no help at all .I knew i cannot go faster unless with bunch help .This year on road bike i rode just as hard but without the traffic and hardly any help for 2h54 .I have earned my time the hard way

[Blokman]

Would be nice to ride a Argus sub 3.But that kit is so ugly.

If they made it compulsory riders will all hit the brakes other side of Suikerbossie.

[Blokman]

No sorry you are wrong, its only from a sub three in the August that you get to wear kit like this (chicks version is all I could find)

Upholstery for the seats of your Boksburg Ditsem Datsun.

[EZRider]

 

 

 

Wie wil nog n sub 3 ry? ek ry om die bunch waarin ek is te wen. dit is dan wanneer dit lekker raak,

 

padfiets ry het net daai ekstra biqi taktiek wat dit great maak. ek geniet my mtb, maar opi pad is dit net anders.

 

Exactly.

[EZRider]

 

 

 

That what got me thinking - the top T de F contenders generally build themselves a team with the express purpose of making their own lives easier for the majority of the race - until the last 2km of a climb or whatever. Riding in a bunch is without doubt a percentage easier than going it solo. So, if it is a percentage easier - and I belive anything up to 30% is possible, then does it count as a "personal" record?

 

Of course it does. It just means your record is much faster than if you were TT racing. Tactics, drafting, sucking wheel and helping when needed are as much a part of the enjoyment of road racing as trail skills are in MTB. It isn't always the strongest cyclist who wins technical MTB races.

Edited November 19, 2013 by EZRider

[Agteros]

Who really cares about sub 3s? Isn't a sub 2:45 or sub 2:30 where the real bragging rights are?

[DIPSLICK]

Who really cares about sub 3s? Isn't a sub 2:45 or sub 2:30 where the real bragging rights are?

same "bragging"rights to say you came STONE LAST

[Cyclewizz]

Who really cares about sub 3s? Isn't a sub 2:45 or sub 2:30 where the real bragging rights are?

 

In that case you have a long way to go :whistling:

[Hennie VR]

Who really cares about sub 3s? Isn't a sub 2:45 or sub 2:30 where the real bragging rights are?

 

Your talking A Bunch talent here. If I was able to stay with the C Bunch they would probably have pulled me to a 2h30'ish.

Anyone below 2h30 I think is a machine!