Capricorn Posted March 15, 2014 Share true the mention of cell phones...I commute either by bicycle or by scooter and probably 9 out of 10 people are looking at their phones in rush hour traffic.... you say that, but more and more i'm seeing cyclists checking phones using both hands, and some sending messages while out training. happy days all round. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted March 15, 2014 Share Are you for real? Two cyclists get mown down in the yellow lane and you try to justify it with an oblique rule... Honestly no words can express what I think you are... Why are you so confrontational? Why the attack? Legitimate questions were asked by Rapunzel. Have you seen the police report, statement, photos, etc.? People say the car drivers are rude and doesn't care and are aggressive, but it's not them and us, but only us because most of us do in cars what we moan about on bicycles. It's sad whenever somebody get knocked down. But do we have to be so hateful? Earl.wp 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyone Posted March 15, 2014 Share you say that, but more and more i'm seeing cyclists checking phones using both hands, and some sending messages while out training. happy days all round. I agree I have seen them too, If I personally have to make/answer a call/text I pull over while I'm riding my bike...BUT I too am guilty of occasionally making a call/texting whilst driving a car...I do make a concerted effort to be more aware of my surroundings though when doing so...Doesn't make it right still. Edited March 15, 2014 by Skinnyone Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted March 16, 2014 Share Are you for real? Two cyclists get mown down in the yellow lane and you try to justify it with an oblique rule... Honestly no words can express what I think you are... You're probably way upset and that reflects in the spirit of the post, big JD. Understood.It's okay to disagree, but your final sentence is way uncool. It's day 3 for Jevandrè and Craig.Sterkte. Edited March 16, 2014 by ' Dale Tiny K and DARK KNIGHT 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big JD Posted March 16, 2014 Share You're probably way upset and that reflects in the spirit of the post, big JD. Understood.It's okay to disagree, but your final sentence is way uncool. It's day 3 for Jevandrè and Craig.Sterkte. You're probably way upset and that reflects in the spirit of the post, big JD. Understood.It's okay to disagree, but your final sentence is way uncool. It's day 3 for Jevandrè and Craig.Sterkte. Fair enough Andy and Dale. Apologies Rapunzel, a personal attack was not intended and is uncalled for. I was heated up after reading the thread as I ride that route all the time and have always felt pretty safe within the confines of the yellow line. Ride safe gents. Rapunzel 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted March 16, 2014 Share Thanks for the update I just dug out my bright flashing front and rear lights and I'm putting them on the road-bike for tomorrow mornings ride - nobody is going to say in court that he didn't see me! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadonis Posted March 16, 2014 Share Hi I'm really sorry to hear about your loss, I have a beautiful rd bike tht is becoming more of a conversation piece when I have guests rather thn fr cycling, reason being I am **** scared to venture onto our rd unless it's in a control race environment. With the combinationof increase in bike jacking and total disregard for cyclist presence on our rds resulting in accidents, my passion may lead to my death or injury, a isk I'm not prepared to take. Get well soon young guns; unless there are changes to the authorities approach to cyclist accidents by motorists, there are going to be more incidents where cyclists response to motorists accidents or near accidents are going to turn violent due their frustration. nathrix and kingalton 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Brunsdon Posted March 16, 2014 Share Are you for real? Two cyclists get mown down in the yellow lane and you try to justify it with an oblique rule... Honestly no words can express what I think you are... He has posted a legitimate question with his observation of the area and its important for us to understand why this accident happened to try minimise future similar incidents. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulmi Posted March 16, 2014 Share Any update on their condition? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted March 16, 2014 Share Fair enough Andy and Dale. Apologies Rapunzel, a personal attack was not intended and is uncalled for. I was heated up after reading the thread as I ride that route all the time and have always felt pretty safe within the confines of the yellow line. Ride safe gents. Cool man... and big up for apologising. Like Dale said, you are frustrated, as we all are. If we can't even have a open and civilised debate between us cyclists, what are the chances of bridging the divide between other road users. I'm of the opinion that if you want to see change, start with yourself whether it's cycling, driving, walking. Let's try to be considerate towards others. Not doing the least that's required, but doing more. Show compassion. Big JD, Winstonian1984, kingalton and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andro Posted March 16, 2014 Share Was on Botlary yesterday at about 09:00 to Stellies. Cycling well within yellow line. Was so almost knocjed by a white bakkie coming from the rear passing k@k close.. And a female just passing and doing 90 deg turn left right in front of us.. So many idiots on the road.. Speedy recovery.. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted March 16, 2014 Share The past couple of months there have been signs on polkadraai road indicating that no cycling is allowed due to the road works and I'm not sure if this is still the case.I'm in no way taking the side of the motorist who should have stayed behind the cyclist if not safe to pass, but the last time I went on the road, it wasn't cycling safe for cycling unless riding on the roadworks side of the cones.Craig and Jevandre, have a speedy recovery and hope to see you on your bikes again soon.Signs are still up. Explicitly saying NO CYCLING. Has been up for a while and has been ignored for months. Are you for real? Two cyclists get mown down in the yellow lane and you try to justify it with an oblique rule... Honestly no words can express what I think you are...Never got the impression he/she is laying blame with the cyclists - merely stating a fact. During construction there have been a good couple of car accidents in that dip due to the Vlaeberg turn off, cars speeding going down the hill and boards all over the place. Last night there was a guy driving on the wrong side of the road due to confusing signs and directions. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkoorts Posted March 16, 2014 Share Did you have your flashing lights on? It helps since its pre emptive Was on Botlary yesterday at about 09:00 to Stellies. Cycling well within yellow line. Was so almost knocjed by a white bakkie coming from the rear passing k@k close.. And a female just passing and doing 90 deg turn left right in front of us.. So many idiots on the road.. Speedy recovery.. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted March 16, 2014 Share We need to re-think cycling lights for road use. Most guys use front lights that will blind the sun and then strap a half dead firefly to their seatpost. On the road you would want it the other way round. Very sad to read about this. I stay just around the corner from Polkadraai and use to train there, R304 and bottelary rd back home all the time. But Kyamandi is not safe any more and clearly a road with MASSIVE shoulders and clearly marked yellow lanes is not enough to keep us safe. So I chose to stick to dirt. Speedy recovery for those involved. CleatsnCleavage and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapunzel Posted March 16, 2014 Share Signs are still up. Explicitly saying NO CYCLING. Has been up for a while and has been ignored for months. Never got the impression he/she is laying blame with the cyclists - merely stating a fact. During construction there have been a good couple of car accidents in that dip due to the Vlaeberg turn off, cars speeding going down the hill and boards all over the place. Last night there was a guy driving on the wrong side of the road due to confusing signs and directions.Thanks Iwan Kemp I'm in no way "blaming" the cyclists, but it is our responsibility to keep ourselves alive and there are times where the risk is unecessary. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopkop Posted March 16, 2014 Share Any update on their condition? Sorry for such a late post. Spoke to Craig's mother earlier today, she says he is in a lot of pain but he is surviving. Jevandre is getting better, his Drs are happy with his progress, they will however be keeping him sedated for at least 24 - 48 hours (She told me this at about 13:00 today). I'll be away from home for this week, will try to keep you guys posted. thanks to all of you for your prayers!!! Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and slowpoke 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/137288-top-cyclists-knocked-down-by-vehicle/page/4/#findComment-2241722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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