Hiker murdered above Kalk Bay this morning

[SwissVan]

Sure the scourge that is tik is a reality. But how about another more harder approach to this scourge and criminal activities with it.

 

Consequence to criminals...eye for an eye, you kill, you go and ride the lightning...end van prent.

 

Unfortunately that is the only option, the trick is how to start doing it without being procecuted (bloody ironic aint it...) Problem is despite the best efforts of a few it will not happen.

 

Tourism, business and residents should get together and hire private secuirity companies to patrol something like what is being done in certain cbd's like Sandton. The day is coming when tourists will no longer go to CT because of this kind of news.

[Blackbeard]

What we think is a sustainable solution is to populate the mountain and allow wider access to certain user groups.More eyes and ears on the ground is how we can help and reduce the space for criminals to operate in.

We refuse to be held to ransom on our mountain! This should be a safe environment to enjoy while running, hiking, cycling, climbing, gliding or playing with our children.

 

It's time for action! Talk shops are just a lot of blah, blah and hot air! We know what happened. We know the park will never be fenced in. We know San Parks are under resourced. We know that civilians are prepared to help.

 

Kandui's proposed solution is to occupy the mountain ie. use it as a viable resource in greater numbers, not vigilantism. More people on the mountain gives any number of bandits, whether armed or not, less opportunity to attack individuals or small groups. To equate a call for larger numbers on the mountain to riders acting as security patrols does not follow logically. The only training required is to be able to cycle, walk or run with a cell phone. We all know how to use those devices. I do not believe that a call to vigilantism can be read into his post.

[Wyatt Earp]

Kandui's proposed solution is to occupy the mountain ie. use it as a viable resource in greater numbers, not vigilantism. More people on the mountain gives any number of bandits, whether armed or not, less opportunity to attack individuals or small groups. To equate a call for larger numbers on the mountain to riders acting as security patrols does not follow logically. The only training required is to be able to cycle, walk or run with a cell phone. We all know how to use those devices. I do not believe that a call to vigilantism can be read into his post.

 

Me personally ,I have never referred to this post, but some others are stating to read as such.

But I will say this again, and I maintain my stance, occupying the mountain and increasing the numbers, will invariably lead to vigilantism.

Kandui has the right approach and the right idea, some of the Chuck's that occupy this planet will have a different idea though.

[marko35s]

This is the last I'm contributing to this.

 

What facts could possibly come out that would realistically change what we already know i.e. a 72 year old hiker was robbed, tried to defend himself and his friend and got stabbed three times in the chest and left for dead.

 

What facts, please?

 

He called the guy a c*nt? So what, the guy is a c*nt, and that will never justify assault, nevermind murder.

 

He pepper sprayed or tried to pepper spray or taze the guy? That would have been in self-defence. Still no justification.

 

He, unprovoked, told the guy to get lost and the guy lost his cool, stabbing him to death. Sorry, ignoring the improbability of this scenario, how does that absolve the guy from, you know, murder????

 

I'm not seeing anything here that makes what happened less barbaric and less deserving of immediate action.

 

Stop making excuses for inexcusable conduct. The world is going to sh*t and we're out of TP.

I have a feeling that Deon's responses in the thread are being horribly misconstrued. Pretty sure he is trying to say find out what you are up against before rushing out to deal with it.

[DJR]

I simply want to state my utter disgust with what happened, and I hope the culprits will be caught, punished and prevented from doing it again.

[DIPSLICK]

 

Cape Town - The town of Fish Hoek was in mourning on Wednesday night after the slaying of a much-loved son, retired master builder Henri La Cour.

He was accosted and stabbed on the Trappieskop Trail, which ascends the southern end of the Kalk Bay mountainside to a saddle,

with a close family friend, a woman in her early forties, whose identity the Cape Argus has been asked to protect for her safety.

“He absolutely loved hiking – he’d go up into the mountains two or three times a week,” said close friend Kevin O’Donoghue, who is pastor at the Full Gospel Church in Fish Hoek, where La Cour was a parishioner.

Around 10.30am on Wednesday, La Cour and the woman friend, also from Fish Hoek, headed up the trail.

“At some point they stopped to rest and were attacked,” O’Donoghue said. “It seems he may have tried to stop the assailant attacking her – but it is not clear.”

La Cour, 72, was stabbed in the upper chest.

The woman fled to escape and seek help, back down the path to Godfrey Road, about 250m below.

A resident, who asked not to be named, told the Cape Argus: “She rang my bell. But by the time I answered she had run next door to my mother-in-law.

“She called me and I called 10111 and screamed for them to bring the police, bring an ambulance, bring everything.

“The police were here extremely quickly, as was CMR (a private paramedic service).”

Within a short while, a police chopper was circling, searching for the attacker.

Paramedics raced up the path to where La Cour lay, but he had died.

He was later identified by the priest, who said: “There was so much blood. It looked like he had been stabbed three times.”

One source said La Cour had been stabbed at least once in his heart.

“The whole village is shocked. I’ve been inundated with calls from all aspects of society,” O’Donoghue said.

“He was heavily involved in the Joyce Chevalier Centre for the Handicaped, which is a home for the disabled, which he helped build.

“He also built the ‘People’s Church’ Assemblies of God church in Sun Valley, and another in Constantia

“He also loved children, he had a real heart for them,” O’Donoghue said.

“Every morning, he would walk on Fish Hoek beach, where he would read his Bible and have a flask of coffee. He called it his quiet time.”

A resident on the scene after the murder said the woman’s hands had been covered in blood, but that she otherwise appeared unhurt. Her rings, including a wedding ring, had been stolen.

“She is very traumatised,” O’Donoghue said.

La Cour’s wife died around four years ago, as had the second of his three daughters. His other two daughters live in Australia. It was understood on Wednesday night they were due to fly to Cape Town at the weekend.

His sister, Odile Brink, head of the Joyce Chevalier Centre in Fish Hoek, said on Wednesday night: “If it had been a heart attack, it would have been different, but murdered!

“And just for the bracelet on his arm – evidently his little money bag and his cellphone were still in his pocket. It just shows how vulnerable we all are, how precious life is.

“Henri loved to hike in the mountains. He was so very energetic.”

One resident said it was known that men lived on the mountain, and he called for more patrols of the area.

Another resident, a woman, said: “I walk alone there all the time – but not any more.”

Sources said on Wednesday night four possible suspects had been captured on the mountain on Wednesday afternoon.

Cape Argus

 

:eek: very sad indeed, crazy senseless, goes hiking to pray and give thanks for what he had, he is the type of gent that would have given what he had on him no issue, and has probably gone out of his way to help people like his killer :thumbdown:

[marko35s]

:eek: very sad indeed, crazy senseless, goes hiking to pray and give thanks for what he had, he is the type of gent that would have given what he had on him no issue, and has probably gone out of his way to help people like his killer :thumbdown:

Last time I went hiking with the family over that side of the mountain there were quite a few shady characters around and my wife point blank refuses to walk over that side of the mountain saying she did not feel safe. Honestly can't say I blame her.

[DIPSLICK]

Last time I went hiking with the family over that side of the mountain there were quite a few shady characters around and my wife point blank refuses to walk over that side of the mountain saying she did not feel safe. Honestly can't say I blame her.

I KNOW its all over the country maybe the cape is just a closer community and we hear about more incidents, but from this side of SA the cape seems to be getting worse than jhb not cool, i def. wouldnt take the wife walking anywhere near the mountain,

[marko35s]

I KNOW its all over the country maybe the cape is just a closer community and we hear about more incidents, but from this side of SA the cape seems to be getting worse than jhb not cool, i def. wouldnt take the wife walking anywhere near the mountain,

Purely from a personal perspective that feels like the case to me, in the last two or so years we have been hit with the following -

 

House burgled 3 times

Eldest son mugged once, would have been twice but he had nothing to steal the second time

Guy follows wife through gate and grabs bag/purse once

Attempted bike jacking (although that one went a little pear shaped for him)

 

It's madness.

[DIPSLICK]

Purely from a personal perspective that feels like the case to me, in the last two or so years we have been hit with the following -

 

House burgled 3 times

Eldest son mugged once, would have been twice but he had nothing to steal the second time

Guy follows wife through gate and grabs bag/purse once

Attempted bike jacking (although that one went a little pear shaped for him)

 

It's madness.

oh that sounds juicy(i hope)

[Wyatt Earp]

oh that sounds juicy(i hope)

 

​See what I mean, always some hero out there.

[dirtrider]

​See what I mean, always some hero out there.

 

Seriaaas ? Lay down and roll over ? We are not all Tina Turner dude , some of us still need hero's .

[Wyatt Earp]

Seriaaas ? Lay down and roll over ? We are not all Tina Turner dude , some of us still need hero's .

This is known as comic sans ms

[Wuzzie]

Very Sad RIP Henri

As a matter of interest are bikes allowed to ride in the area of the incident?

It would be interesting to know the stats on muggings in bike and none bike areas.

Regular biking activity in an area helps the good guys that is for sure.

Its about time hikers and runners stop abusing bikers and help us push for us to have access to every trail in CT!!!!!

[marko35s]

oh that sounds juicy(i hope)

Lets just leave it at I still have a bike and he still doesn't.

What was concerning when I thought about it later was despite it being mid afternoon with loads of witnesses around he was still happy to try and nick the bike, that said nobody made any kind of move to help stop him.

[DIPSLICK]

Lets just leave it at I still have a bike and he still doesn't.

What was concerning when I thought about it later was despite it being mid afternoon with loads of witnesses around he was still happy to try and nick the bike, that said nobody made any kind of move to help stop him.

thats the times we living in people will stand by rather than help fellow law abiding citizens, i know people have to consider they have families and responsibilities but soon we will be living in MAD MAX times if we dont start helping each other and start looking out for each other