Manualling/Bunny hopping on Dual sussers

[sawystertrance]

Morning all,

 

I know the topic of manualling has been discussed before but I just can't get the hang of it. Is it different on a DS compared to a hardtail?

 

I have watched a few YouTube clips on manualling and on the kettle bell exercises in gym which imitate the action required to do a manual, but can't get there. Anyone got any tips? Anyone give brief lessons in Cape Town?

 

Cheers

[porqui]

3P's

 

Practice! Practice! Practice!

 

Hardtail helps.

 

Doing it on a lawn makes it easier.

So does a slight incline.

 

Lock out your rear shock.

 

Drop your saddle an inch maybe two.

[SwissVan]

I give pronking lessons, much easier than learning to manual but not as usefull.

 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Better to learn with flats, and it's the same principle on a DS as a hardtail.

[Capricorn]

Morning all,

 

I know the topic of manualling has been discussed before but I just can't get the hang of it. Is it different on a DS compared to a hardtail?

 

I have watched a few YouTube clips on manualling and on the kettle bell exercises in gym which imitate the action required to do a manual, but can't get there. Anyone got any tips? Anyone give brief lessons in Cape Town?

 

Cheers

 

have someone who can do it, watch you do it. they'll be in a literally, better position to tell you what you doing right or not.

[Scott2luvit]

I have come to the conclusion that its probably something you either can do or cant, I cant, so I just leave it, at best I can only go 2m at a time, given up and moved on

[sawystertrance]

Better to learn with flats, and it's the same principle on a DS as a hardtail.

Thanks for the reply ....but ... I reckon dualling is enabled by a moment around the rear axle, caused by the shift of centre of gravity the rider causes by backward and upward movement. Correct? If that is true, then doesn't the suspension absorb the movement required to cause this shift?

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Thanks for the reply ....but ... I reckon dualling is enabled by a moment around the rear axle, caused by the shift of centre of gravity the rider causes by backward and upward movement. Correct? If that is true, then doesn't the suspension absorb the movement required to cause this shift?

 

Yes, to a degree. Just needs a bigger push from the legs to accentuate the movement. But overall, it's the same concept.

[Dirkitech]

Morning all,

 

I know the topic of manualling has been discussed before but I just can't get the hang of it. Is it different on a DS compared to a hardtail?

 

I have watched a few YouTube clips on manualling and on the kettle bell exercises in gym which imitate the action required to do a manual, but can't get there. Anyone got any tips? Anyone give brief lessons in Cape Town?

 

Cheers

 

When manualling it helpsifr you have something like a rear lockout... YES, a rear lockout a.k.a. Fox Brain

Gotta love that TSsss!

 

as for bunny hopping... havent noticed a difference but then again, Fox Brain.

 

EDIT: Captain Obvious quote: "helps doing it in a climbing gear when you start out"

[sawystertrance]

Yes, to a degree. Just needs a bigger push from the legs to accentuate the movement. But overall, it's the same concept.

So, technique and more squats at gym, right? Ah well.

Thanks for the input

[Skylark]

Weight transfer, weight transfer, weight transfer.

Soft tail definitely makes it more difficult, the bike squats as you transfer your weight backwards/load the rear wheel, you learn to work with it/compensate for the lack of leverage. Go small then bigger gradually, gets easier.

[Shebeen]

So, technique and more squats at gym, right? Ah well.

Thanks for the input

i reckon it would have more to do with balls than brawn. but i haven't really tried.

[Guest Omega Man]

Check out 4.03 in the vid. THAT'S how to manual.

 

[Letum911]

Morning all,

 

I know the topic of manualling has been discussed before but I just can't get the hang of it. Is it different on a DS compared to a hardtail?

 

I have watched a few YouTube clips on manualling and on the kettle bell exercises in gym which imitate the action required to do a manual, but can't get there. Anyone got any tips? Anyone give brief lessons in Cape Town?

 

Cheers

 

I'ts a bit easier on a DS than on a hard tail. Using the rear suspension to help load the fork to pop it up does help. Also don't try doing it standing, pop the bike up to a wheelie on a slight downhill, get the bike to the balance point (brake control is crucial for not falling on your ass), and stop pedaling. Manage to get this right then move to popping the bike straight up into a manual

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

Better to learn with flats, and it's the same principle on a DS as a hardtail.

 

I quite literally rode a dual suspension yesterday for the first time and wheelying, bunny hopping and manually is a bit tougher than on a hardtail.

I will however practice, practice, practice.

 

Dropping posts and locking out shocks will not be of any help out on the trail when you are approaching a log across the trail.

[Headshot]

A dropper post should be mandatory on all MTB's :-) Its a fun/safety device of note. It is a little different on a DS bike but not really harder to hop and manual ( or in my case try to manual)