Help - What would you do??

[BogusOne]

If no crack showed up when X-rayed and paint had to be removed to reveal the crack sound like a crack pot story to me. If there is an underlying crack on a painted frame the paint will 99.9% of the time show up through the paint.

 

If paint had to be removed to discover a crack surely he must have bumped it to specifically know where to remove the paint to look for a crack  or something along those lines.

 

I would skud my piesangs and not worry bout it. 

['Dale]

I give my benefit of the doubt to the Seller.

He has cool numbers at the HubSA Trader Rating system.

[shaper]

Not your problem, you sold the bike in good faith and was checked at the time and accepted.

 

Subsequently an xray was done... one has to ask why the buyer did not do this as part of the sale unless something has happened since!!

 

Have a feeling that the fact you were very accommodating with regard to the swapping of the crank... is that something has happened to the bike in the 2 months since you sold it and he is trying to play you as a soft touch with regard to the frame as you were going to be so accommodating with the crank.

 

As you know the buyer is a hubber... get him to put his side here.

 

As currently stand, the bike was bought as is and was happy with the purchase, there is no recourse.

[Pikey]

If there was no crack when the X-rays were done,surely it happend after the fact. How qualified is the person sanding to reveal the crack?

[Guest Smimby]

Send him details of the a person that repairs Carbon and that is it....your job done!

 

XRay, huh funny one. why is it not something that every supplier then do when there is a case of Crack or no crack? How many times have people come to the hub asking if this is a paint crack or a real crack?

 

Surly we can then just have it x-rayed? Sounds like BS to me.

[TALUS]

I do what feels right and not always just what can be legally enforced.

 

You will know if that crack could have been there already.

 

If not: 2 months is way more than one can reasonably expect.

 

(I would love to hear the other side though)

[canfan]

Firstly, 2 Months is to long. Secondly, in my opinion because he removed paint its definitely not your problem. 

[Eugene]

will be interesting indeed... i know with 2nd hand vehicle sales there's no longer a concept of "voets-toets" and you are liable for the 1st 6 months...but this is a bicycle and would be very difficult for both to prove the crack was/wasn't there when sold.

 

i wouldn't worry too much about it.

What you are talking about is contained in the Consumer Protection Act.

 

This specifically excludes once off sales, however, it does apply to traders. If the original poster trades regularly in second hand cycle stuff, he might be considered a trader and might be liable to the 6 month rule.

[Dirkitech]

I sold a bicycle through an advert on Thehubsa on 4 August 2014 at which date the Purchaser paid and took the bicycle. The arrangement was that if he is not happy with the Compact Crank on the bike I will change that to a normal crank. Hear nothing untill a phone call on 7 Sept when he told me that he is very happy with the bike but would I still swop the compact to a normal crank. Which I was happy to do. Heard nothing untill about 18 Sept when he phoned and said he got another opinion and would prefer to keep the compact. He also mentioned something about a crack in the seatpost that he want to investigate. Today 26 Sept I received a call and he said he had the bike Xrayed that showed nothing but some friend removed the paint somewhere close to the BB and he found a crack in the carbon. 

I am 100% sure that there was no crack when he took the bike so what do you guys suggest should I do after a period of 2 months that the bike was in his posession??

 

if he had it xrayed and it shows nothing, then just that- do nothing. or ignore, same difference =)

[Dirkitech]

From my experience buying a carbon frame:

 

Bought a new carbon bike which rode fine enough (I was aware that it needed TLC).

 

I had a hard crash when I went down one of the steeper drops at Rietvlei- the handlebar swung around, also cutting into the frame. The next weekend when I talked with Wendell Bole, he discovered (very quickly and easily) that the fork had been cut shorter before, hence the stem didn't grip well. I would have been screwed if Wendell didn't have a fix for it then and there, but point is, I bought the bike as is, and no longer had right to claim in spite of the bad fall and dirt burns I got. So coming from the side of the guy that wants to claim, its a chance, but an unprecedented chance.

[DIPSLICK]

STEEL IS REAL

[Pusher]

If there was no crack when the X-rays were done,surely it happend after the fact. How qualified is the person sanding to reveal the crack?

Or to know where exactly to remove the paint to show the said crack!

[Tubehunter]

STEEL IS REAL

 

Only if you 'let toes...'

[Vetseun]

STEEL IS REAL

You tell them Dipsy

[blackmyst]

so my 2c, I'm not sure the bike was a mtb or road, but I'll assume a mtb - mtb isn't exactly a "light" sport, the odds of damaging a part is not a case of if, but of when.

 

keeping this in mind, no-one after having a bike for 2 months suddenly decides to have it xray'd ? something went wrong.... not to mention the removal of the paint at the exact point... and the xray was clean

 

from what you have said this seems suspicious to me.... not a nice feeling, but after 2 months pushing ones luck springs to mind

[Pure Savage]

I would like to know how his expert friend removed the paint and found the supposed crack. Who just randomly lets someone sand their bike?? Dodge.

 

If the buyer disagrees with you I think we shall hold hub court. After the Oscar case I don't trust SA courts. Thehubsa holds jurisdiction as it was sold on the hub. We can even hold a poll so it will be like a jury system. We can hear both sides and then rule.

 

In my head it is starting to sound like Jerry Springer.... Excited