tombeej Posted November 12, 2015 Share I daren't ask this....aren't the GCN okes overlapping wheels around 32 secs, in echelon, which we want to avoid? Or does the lateral space between wheels due to the echelon make it safer to do so? Yes you're right, in an echelon you'll inevitably be off at an angle, and the stronger the wind the more "up alongside" you'll have to be to the rider in front. Then, if it's really gusty, you will find that you're being buffeted by the wind as it tries to blow you into the front wheel of the guy tucked in diagonally behind you. Echelons are higher grade stuff. The really good racers know how to smash up fields at will due to their skill at riding in the wind. It's why the Belgians and the Dutch are so dominant in the horrible weather of the early spring classics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 12, 2015 Share I daren't ask this....aren't the GCN okes overlapping wheels around 32 secs, in echelon, which we want to avoid? Or does the lateral space between wheels due to the echelon make it safer to do so? The overlapping is most dangerous when you have a group, rather than single bikes spread over the road (in an echelon), as you don't have anywhere to go. Edit: the yellow riders in the group will drift left or right depending on the front of the group - maybe an obstacle (man hole cover) and the red guy is overlapping wheels and has to (1) brake hard, or (2) drift with the yellow one to avoid touching wheels. Inevitably, one of the yellow guys doesn't move and that's where the crash happens. Edited November 12, 2015 by geraldm24 tombeej 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedbadat Posted November 12, 2015 Share its not impossible for us to bring in the whole group sub3 but i think we all should be honest on the day and pull ourselves out of the group during the race if the pace is just way too fast for us. im sure even then with the help recieved to that point we would still do a good time or PB Fat Boab, Cadre, BouncingBrain and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted November 12, 2015 Share I'm no expert, but one very important thing that I would like to request is that we watch wheel overlap. I really do not feel like crashing.Stay at front and pull, should be safe there Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 12, 2015 Share Post your time from last year, and also your PB on other undulating 100Km races.This will give everyone some perspective of what to expect, and who to look after. I'm riding with members of my club where a few have not achieved a sub-3. They are seeded in D-group... their PB's are between 3:05 - 3:15. I know they're capable of getting under 3 hours as I ride with them week in and week out. They also finished with an average of 32km/h at the Amashova from our small (Buudy Batch) group of 9, which also included cycling from Joburg the previous 3 days. Patchelicious and BouncingBrain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottCM Posted November 12, 2015 Share Name 947 (2014) PB BarefootDaveBasil Brushbmw1zabored_girlBouncingBrainCadreCarpetCASSIE1975DiggersDirt De VildoeffelsCavdoeffelsCraig 26Fat BoabeddyrFirozfxHappyMartinLurchmonkey on a bianchimorne1600PatcheliciousPrinceRob KRob MortimerRyan's dadSandroshaperScottC-M 3:40 Tour Durban 3:07StevieLtombeejwernerhpZaskar Edited November 12, 2015 by ScottC-M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMartin Posted November 12, 2015 Share I certainly am. Looks easy in the videos hey! Whole other story on the road We will do our best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedbadat Posted November 12, 2015 Share Name 947 (2014) PB BarefootDaveBasil Brushbmw1zabored_girlBouncingBrainCadreCarpetCASSIE1975DiggersDirt De VildoeffelsCavdoeffelsCraig 26Fat BoabeddyrFirozfxHappyMartinLurchmonkey on a bianchi 3:12 R4V 3:14morne1600PatcheliciousPrinceRob KRob MortimerRyan's dadSandroshaperScottC-M 3:40 Tour Durban 3:07StevieLtombeejwernerhpZaskar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob K Posted November 12, 2015 Share 947 2014 3:14947 2013 3:09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted November 12, 2015 Share What's the PB criteria? Robot to Robot segment = 21seconds!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firozfx Posted November 12, 2015 Share 947 2014 3:33Tour Durban 3:11R4V 2015 3:07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BouncingBrain Posted November 12, 2015 Share Sorry guys I'm using my phone so I can't quote the post to add my PB. Best seeding index is 2015 Amashova 3:19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMartin Posted November 12, 2015 Share 2015 Shova was a bad 3:11. Haven't done 94 n the new route. Best on the old route was 2:44 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 12, 2015 Share What's the PB criteria? Robot to Robot segment = 21seconds!! [emoji14]Wrong Robot [emoji12] It the last one before the reserve and back again... Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Mortimer Posted November 12, 2015 Share Unfortunately no times to add to the PB list ............. I did finish the Joberg2C in 9 days though? Hennie VR, DIPSLICK, Frosty and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boab Posted November 12, 2015 Share Name 947 (2014) PB BarefootDaveBasil Brushbmw1zabored_girlBouncingBrainCadreCarpetCASSIE1975DiggersDirt De VildoeffelsCavdoeffelsCraig 26Fat Boab 03:40 Satellite Classic (80km) 02:50.eddyrFirozfxHappyMartinLurchmonkey on a bianchi 3:12 R4V 3:14morne1600PatcheliciousPrinceRob KRob MortimerRyan's dadSandroshaperScottC-M 3:40 Tour Durban 3:07StevieLtombeejwernerhpZaskar Edited November 12, 2015 by Fat Boab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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