Review: Pyga OneForty650 Pascoe

[Iwan Kemp]

you recommend for doing a ride like the munga ?

 

110 if your budget is Alu, Stage or Stage 110 if your budget allows for carbon.

[Iwan Kemp]

Anyone know where one get that retention device locally

 

Crow?

 

Try cSixx on sales@csixx.com or PM bibi for a cSixx or MRP option.

[rouxtjie]

Try cSixx on sales@csixx.com or PM bibi for a cSixx or MRP option.

Ta kraai.

 

Bibi will pm u in the morrow

[Borriz]

My objective view after a month on my 140. It climbs a lot better than stated in article. But doesn't like flat roads. Couldn't agree more on front wheel comment.

This bike eat single track like boarding school boys eat toast - very fast

So ito Munga - not recommended. S2C? Hell yes. Crater Cruise? Noway Jose. Basically find any race profile that goes up and down but not flat and the narrower the better

[Ryanpmb]

would this be suitable for say S2C, or Race to rhodes type long distance touring - or should one look more at the 120 ?

Definately the wrong tool for the job. I rode my 110 during J2C. It was fine but it wasn't ideal. For S2C it would be fine. I also rode my 110 during R2R. It worked well but, again, I probably won't do it again on this bike. PYGAs are heavy and don't make ideal marathon bikes. The 110 does a lot of things well but doesn't excel at any one thing either - bike of compromises really. The 140 now focuses on a more specific purpose, making it a great trail/ local enduro bike. But even less of a marathon/ endurance machine. If you're up for punishment - take it on R2R...

Edited January 19, 2016 by Ryanpmb

[Nick]

Nice review Nick.

Now that you've ridden both the Pyga Poscoe and the Transition Patrol.

Which one did you like better?

 

Tough one. I rode the Transition in a bike park in the Alps, so I had huge fun on it. Different ball game to the familiar Cape trails that I rode the Pyga on. But had I taken the Pascoe, I'm sure I would have had just as much fun.

 

would this be suitable for say S2C, or Race to rhodes type long distance touring - or should one look more at the 120 ?

 

Didn't John settle this debate last year? Surely your only choice is their carbon 650b hardtail. How else do you expect to win it? 

 

Personally, within the Pyga range, I'd go with a OneTen for those events unless your pocket can stretch to one of the Stage bikes.

 

Anyone know where one get that retention device locally

 

Crow?

 

There is also their website: http://www.csixx.co.za/collections/chainguides

 

My objective view after a month on my 140. It climbs a lot better than stated in article. But doesn't like flat roads. Couldn't agree more on front wheel comment.

This bike eat single track like boarding school boys eat toast - very fast

So ito Munga - not recommended. S2C? Hell yes. Crater Cruise? Noway Jose. Basically find any race profile that goes up and down but not flat and the narrower the better

Thanks for the comment. It's good to get another perspective.

 

Perhaps I was having a good day when I tested it out on the flats.

[rouxtjie]

thanks for the link...

 

I think Ryan's summary is spot on. There is compromise with the bike...even if you build it with top spec component. It will never hang with marathon bikes on the ups nevermind the flats. But what you give up you get back with compound interest on the downs and singletrack. 

[NickGM]

I think this review got it spot on. I have a pascoe and before that was riding a decent alu hardtail 29er. My climbing is noticeably slower on the pascoe but it's not unexpected; the bike is a bit heavier, the smaller wheels don't roll as well, and a bit of energy is lost in "pedalbob". It's also not comparing apples with apples. So would it climb slower than another 650B full-sus alu bike with 140-160mm travel? I have no idea, but I hope not. 

 

Going downhill it inspires confidence and is shedloads of fun. And this is why I bought it. I am by far the limiting factor of the two of us. A more skilled rider could do so much more with this bike but I'd rather run out of talent than run out of bike. All things that were a hindrance going uphill are an asset going down. 

 

On a side note, it was also nice to read a bike review on Bikehub that was not constant gushing. Many of the others I'd read were all like "This bike is so flippin awesome, etc". 

[MarcBurger]

If I'm not mistaken, one of the top solo riders in the Joberg2C was on a Pascoe.

Can't find the link right now.

 

But yes, open fast flat roads you need to work a little harder. Probably because you're not allowed to put fast track or any semi-slick tyres on a Pascoe. Full of no.

[Ryanpmb]

thanks for the link...

 

I think Ryan's summary is spot on. There is compromise with the bike...even if you build it with top spec component. It will never hang with marathon bikes on the ups nevermind the flats. But what you give up you get back with compound interest on the downs and singletrack.

The 110 is the ideal South Aftican one-bike-to-do-all. Most riders will be more than happy and honestly probably not worry about the compromises if it's to he their only MTB. The stage would be similar if your budget goes there.

 

Start going into niche events and there's better options (even within the PYGA stable).

Edited January 19, 2016 by Ryanpmb

[Ryanpmb]

If I'm not mistaken, one of the top solo riders in the Joberg2C was on a Pascoe.

Can't find the link right now.

 

But yes, open fast flat roads you need to work a little harder. Probably because you're not allowed to put fast track or any semi-slick tyres on a Pascoe. Full of no.

You're probably thinking of Grant Usher. I'd have a look into his credentials before suggesting what he riders for the avg Joe

[Pipsqueak]

you recommend for doing a ride like the munga ?

Holy cow. Just get a nasty hardtail for the Munga. Use the Pyga for something fun.

[awesme]

The Munga was won on a hardtail... Pyga.

 

G

 

Holy cow. Just get a nasty hardtail for the Munga. Use the Pyga for something fun.

[DanielJhb]

I had the 120 for 6 months and am now on the Pascoe. They are both extremely versatile and the use of either completely depends on the build. Stick some 2.4 tyres, wide rims, short stem/long bar and a 140mm pike on the 120 and you have a very capable trail/enduro rig. Fit it with 2.2's, a revelation and a carbon cockpit and you have a very capable stage race bike. The Pascoe is more an out and out trail bike and there is a noticeably "lag" when putting the power down out of corners compared to the 120, and you do feel ever so slightly more disconnected from the trail due to the increased travel. That may be a pro or con though depending on how rough/rocky the trail is and how you like to ride. On technical/rocky descends the Pascoe shines and the monarch plus/pike combo means you can take straight lines through rock gardens and less finesse is needed on technical sections than with a 120/revelation setup. I found the 120 to be slightly short on travel at the rear, especially with a progressive shock tune. Bottom line, you'll be happy with either and can set them up differently each month depending on whether you'll be bombing black runs or doing joburg 2c.       

[flowCountry]

Well I don't have one of these, but the OneTwenty....And man is it ever capable! Coming from the Spaz Enduro I was a little worried about its capabilities for going down...but those were unwarranted!

 

Ive heard rumours of Chuck Norris getting full rear yravel on a Pyga, but they are rumours. And unconfirmed........

You guys must be joking! I really never had problems to bottom out the shock and I only run around 27% Sag together with 4 air can rings in the Monarch Plus.

 

My objective view after a month on my 140. It climbs a lot better than stated in article. But doesn't like flat roads. Couldn't agree more on front wheel comment. This bike eat single track like boarding school boys eat toast - very fastSo ito Munga - not recommended. S2C? Hell yes. Crater Cruise? Noway Jose. Basically find any race profile that goes up and down but not flat and the narrower the better

Yep, flat roads aren't the best with the Pascoe. But that's not what the bike is made for, right I also think that the Tire choice and pressure have a big influence in that point. I also like to ride the Monarch in the full open Compression setting to go uphill.

[Hairy]

Anyone know where one get that retention device locally

 

Crow?

this is the one you are looking for

 

http://www.csixx.co.za/collections/super-single/products/super-single-high-direct?variant=7082616133