Patchelicious Posted January 20, 2016 Share Could it be that vets generally have better salaries than pro cyclists and can afford better doctors and juice to help them dope better?Exactly this. Who are Vets... 30 to 50 year olds who mostly can afford R100k bikes, most are competitive hence them racing. Risk is also lower, as getting caught won't affect salary earning ability. I would love it if they tested more Vets! Edited January 20, 2016 by Patchelicious Tumbleweed, BarHugger, Donovan Le Cok and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarHugger Posted January 20, 2016 Share Out local guys have not made it to world tour level because they are not good enough, not because world tour riders are dirty.Don't go there....I was lambasted for saying the same yesterday.... Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted January 20, 2016 Share But, but, the most tested athlete on the planet never tested positive... On local riders not doing well overseas, is it really a fair statement? The small local elite field or lack of pro teams is often lamented here and elsewhere. So it would follow that we would only have a small number who make it big overseas, no? It kinda ignores the work put in by riders like Hunter, Meintjies, Impey, etc...and the successes they have enjoyed. Stander, Moolman, Minaar also done really well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted January 20, 2016 Share Absolutely...quite nauseating to say the least....on a side at Edgar...I went and had a look...Lanceenbal said he posted the pic on Kevin's time line....the only name I find is that Theo fella...sorry man I tried... I think you got the wrong end of the stick. LB was saying that KE posted the pic on KE's IG account, DL responded and that is how the fiaaahhht started boet. BarHugger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted January 20, 2016 Share Don't go there....I was lambasted for saying the same yesterday.... Why not. By that logic, I am going to dope! I will take EPO until Gauteng Champs. Then if anybody beats me, they must be doping too! BarHugger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lancesball Posted January 20, 2016 Share Exactly this. Who are Vets... 30 to 50 year olds who mostly can afford R100k bikes, most are competitive hence them racing. Risk is also lower, as getting caught won't affect salary earning ability. I would love it if they tested more Vets! I would like to play devils advocate here and say that the talent in youngsters at the moment in SA bar a few is pretty low and that is allowing Strong Vets mainly 30-39 show faces in races. Especially in Marathon type events where age and experience actually does play a role. gummibear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garamundege Mugabe Posted January 20, 2016 Share ah man, its 2016 - no prizes for puritanical zealots.. anyone over 30 doing any kind of training will enjoy benefit from some HGH or other decent peptide - no side effects, unlike AAS. Do some research, ask your doctor, get a prescription if the nanny-state mentality scares you. One life, live it, like the landy lads say.. Brickleberry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lancesball Posted January 20, 2016 Share Absolutely...quite nauseating to say the least....on a side at Edgar...I went and had a look...Lanceenbal said he posted the pic on Kevin's time line....the only name I find is that Theo fella...sorry man I tried... I never said any such thing. Please re-read my original post. Thanks Tumbleweed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted January 20, 2016 Share I would like to play devils advocate here and say that the talent in youngsters at the moment in SA bar a few is pretty low and that is allowing Strong Vets mainly 30-39 show faces in races. Especially in Marathon type events where age and experience actually does play a role.I was saying that it's easier for Vets to dope, not that they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted January 20, 2016 Share My view... It's fair to say i think all the pros dope. It's off sides to say all pros dope. Truth is we will never know until they get done so throwing the dope blanket over the whole peleton is not right. Patchelicious, EmptyB and raptor-22 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknRolla Posted January 20, 2016 Share Our development of the sport programmes are nowhere near that of international levels.Thus we will have less local riders capable of making it on the international cirquit. Plain and simple. If talent ID took place properly, by qualified coaches/ sport scientists, and development followed, any talented rider can achieve good results on the internationa scene. andydude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarHugger Posted January 20, 2016 Share I never said any such thing. Please re-read my original post. ThanksAh...my apologies...I just went back on your post and it read "It was posted" I read "I posted".....thanks for sharing in any case....rather disgusting the way they treated Lill.... intern, Edgar and Jakkals. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 20, 2016 Share The short version of this is that Kevin has been sanctioned for abnormalities March 2014 until 2015 Epic. His operation and blood transfusion / ozone therapy is 2012 /13. They are not related. No abnormalities last that long with any type of PED or treatment. Simple. 200_s.gifyou got the timeline wrong i think. Ozone therapy he's claiming was sep 2013, he's banned from march 2014(Epic). So it's six months apart - whether that is related is hard for joe public to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarHugger Posted January 20, 2016 Share ah man, its 2016 - no prizes for puritanical zealots.. anyone over 30 doing any kind of training will enjoy benefit from some HGH or other decent peptide - no side effects, unlike AAS. Do some research, ask your doctor, get a prescription if the nanny-state mentality scares you. One life, live it, like the landy lads say.. YOLO Garamundege Mugabe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lancesball Posted January 20, 2016 Share Could it be that vets generally have better salaries than pro cyclists and can afford better doctors and juice to help them dope better? If guys in general are being caught with EPO, testosterone and ABP then no Vet will get it better than the clan of guys who have been caught as of late. They seem to know their way around this stuff better than any Vet and his Dr. No, I dont believe that. Edited January 20, 2016 by Lancesball Tumbleweed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarHugger Posted January 20, 2016 Share I think you got the wrong end of the stick. LB was saying that KE posted the pic on KE's IG account, DL responded and that is how the fiaaahhht started boet. Yip...got it now.... Edgar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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