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nooooo, no fires again! I want to do the 109km this time. Or is it a great conspiracy to keep me coming back to SA every 2 years? (I could live with that as wel ;-)) 

 

The fires will be long gone by the time you arrive :D

 

There is nothing left to burn. Dont need to stress

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With just an extra bit of wind love for those at the back  :whistling:

Always interesting how most people disregard the fact that wind normally picks up during the day. Guys that race from 6-9 normally have less wind to deal with.

 

Us guys that ride from 9-2 face more wind, have more wind resistance and stay on the road longer. That's my excuse anyway.

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Always interesting how most people disregard the fact that wind normally picks up during the day. Guys that race from 6-9 normally have less wind to deal with.

 

Us guys that ride from 9-2 face more wind, have more wind resistance and stay on the road longer. That's my excuse anyway.

You are right.

 

Cycling is the most discriminatory sport in existence. Experienced, well trained and fit cyclists start when the weather is the generally the best with less wind and cooler. And they finish well before it gets hot and unpleasant when the newer, less well trained and less fit have to ride.

 

It is almost as if there is a deliberately nasty initiation that every one has to pass to get to start earlier in order to keep the riff-raff out.

 

Only consolation for those starting late and enduring the heat and wind is that those starting up front didn't get there through a lucky packet draw, everyone started at the back at some stage.

 

Except if you are happy to wear the PPA Stay Wider lumo yellow shirt and apply to start in the Safe Cycling group and improve from there. Only way I know of not having to pay your dues in the hot windy early/late afternoon.

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You are right.

 

Cycling is the most discriminatory sport in existence. Experienced, well trained and fit cyclists start when the weather is the generally the best with less wind and cooler. And they finish well before it gets hot and unpleasant when the newer, less well trained and less fit have to ride.

 

It is almost as if there is a deliberately nasty initiation that every one has to pass to get to start earlier in order to keep the riff-raff out.

 

Only consolation for those starting late and enduring the heat and wind is that those starting up front didn't get there through a lucky packet draw, everyone started at the back at some stage.

 

Except if you are happy to wear the PPA Stay Wider lumo yellow shirt and apply to start in the Safe Cycling group and improve from there. Only way I know of not having to pay your dues in the hot windy early/late afternoon.

Spot on. As always, your arguments are well formulated, to the point and with a tiny bit of sarcasm. Was just making a observation about the wind. The guys that start early worked their asses off for their position and deserve it, nothing discriminatory about that.

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Spot on. As always, your arguments are well formulated, to the point and with a tiny bit of sarcasm. Was just making a observation about the wind. The guys that start early worked their asses off for their position and deserve it, nothing discriminatory about that.

It used to be worse around the turn of this century. If you joined the party late you kept your seeding for an entire season, there was no reseeding mid term. So getting from ZH funride or PB Argus seeding to be allowed to race with the big boys took quite a few years. And each funride felt like an individual time trial until about H where the workload was shared more evenly. Except in a an ITT there are not 50 cyclists sucking wheels.

 

I think the discrimination comment was more that you have to serve your time, talent alone (not that I have any) does not merit a change of group as it does in most other sports.

 

Fabulous sport once you get the earlier start.

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