Patchelicious Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 As opposed to the Veterinarian kind? Are they cost saving by using the local Vet in the medical tent?Point was that they (the doctors) are humans too, and I am sure are capable of making mistakes too.
carbon29er Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 What happened to the pharmacist? Surely an admission of dispensing drugs in such a way that they contaminate each other is an admision of professional negligence that should lead to discipline from the professional registering body? Well yes- but I don't see the harm created in this instance that justifies a moral intervention- it's all by admission an innocent mistake - unless you suspect someone is lying.. Like Daryls pharmacist? The anonymous pharmacist who provided a statement, was never cross examined and did not appear in person? Nothing happened to him as he was never named. SAIDS accepted the version of how the drugs got there as they had stuffed the whole testing procedure to the max. Some would say he never existed. But they are only sceptics who are sick of dopers and their lies.
Patchelicious Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 The anonymous pharmacist who provided a statement, was never cross examined and did not appear in person? Nothing happened to him as he was never named. SAIDS accepted the version of how the drugs got there as they had stuffed the whole testing procedure to the max. Some would say he never existed. But they are only sceptics who are sick of dopers and their lies.And we simply accept this?
HappyMartin Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 And we simply accept this?Actually there was video evidence date stamped that came from surveillance cameras showing the pharmacist dispensing the medication along with computer records showing what was dispensed and sold at what time. That formed the basis of the contamination claim and that is what was accepted. But anyway Makes a much more fun story to say that Daryl came up with an excuse and it was simply a accepted. Rob Mortimer, Tumbleweed and Gen 3
fandacious Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Fahmy Galant | SAIDS <fahmy@saids.org.za> 1:36 PM (1 minute ago) to zayin Dear Mr. Krige Thank you for your query. For every adverse analytical finding, an athlete is given an opportunity to present his/her side to ensure a process of fairness.
fandacious Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Devil's advocate: If you need medicine, should you just sit on the couch and watch TV? Wait, you're not allowed the watch TV, because the medication you're on are eye drops. Where do you draw the line? When are you allowed to live a life? its not an arbitrary line. The line is drawn by WADA. Its called the banned substances list. By partaking in the sport, you agree on that line. You dont get to compete in the sport then afterwards complain about the line. If you dont like the line, dont compete in the sport Underachiever, Sepia, Spinnekop and 1 other 4
Patchelicious Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Actually there was video evidence date stamped that came from surveillance cameras showing the pharmacist dispensing the medication along with computer records showing what was dispensed and sold at what time. That formed the basis of the contamination claim and that is what was accepted. But anyway Makes a much more fun story to say that Daryl came up with an excuse and it was simply a accepted.Ok then its confirmed that the pharmacist was negligent, and due to his negligence he almost ruined a GT rider's career!! What happened to him? Ps: I live in JHB, so I would to know which pharmacist this is so that I can avoid it, I don't want to be accidently poisoned.
HairyLegs Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Ok then its confirmed that the pharmacist was negligent, and due to his negligence he almost ruined a GT rider's career!! What happened to him? Ps: I live in JHB, so I would to know which pharmacist this is so that I can avoid it, I don't want to be accidently poisoned. If I recall, the pharmacist was in Durban.
Patchelicious Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) If I recall, the pharmacist was in Durban.Ok, I have family there, don't want them accidentally poisoned...... Edited January 9, 2017 by Patchelicious fandacious and Gen 2
Gen Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Ok, I have family there, don't want them accidentally poisoned......[emoji23] [emoji23] ja it was during SA champs that all of this happened.. does anyone know if the bicarb capsules actually help prevent cramping - or what did he use it for. ? As I recall it was bicarb that was put into these contaminated capsules... Edited January 9, 2017 by Gen Patchelicious 1
V12man Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 [emoji23] [emoji23] ja it was during SA champs that all of this happened.. does anyone know if the bicarb capsules actually help prevent cramping - or what did he use it for. ? As I recall it was bicarb that was put into these contaminated capsules...bicarb increases the ability of the muscle to withstand ph changes - https://cyclingtips.com/2016/06/improving-performance-with-bicarb-soda-how-it-works-and-how-to-do-it/ IV bicarb has been shown to increase short term performance - but I am not sure what effects small quantities via the gut have in the literature Gen 1
Gen Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 bicarb increases the ability of the muscle to withstand ph changes - https://cyclingtips.com/2016/06/improving-performance-with-bicarb-soda-how-it-works-and-how-to-do-it/ IV bicarb has been shown to increase short term performance - but I am not sure what effects small quantities via the gut have in the literatureDanke
Barend de Arend Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 its not an arbitrary line. The line is drawn by WADA. Its called the banned substances list. By partaking in the sport, you agree on that line. You dont get to compete in the sport then afterwards complain about the line. If you dont like the line, dont compete in the sport WADA has drawn a second line: the TUE line. Substances that you're allowed to take, but must ask permission for. You agree to this line too. That line says that there are valid reasons to take certain medications. When your well being requires the drug, and you can justify that, you're allowed to take the drug. One such reason is diabetes. If you can prove you have diabetes, you are allowed to take insulin. If you don't have diabetes, you're not allowed to take insulin. I don't feel right telling a diabetic: if you want to ride your bike, you must stop with your insulin injections. I think a diabetic should be allowed to live his life, and it's great that medical science now allows for that. (there are actually two TUE lines: acute and chronic) BigDL 1
Spinnekop Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Actually there was video evidence date stamped that came from surveillance cameras showing the pharmacist dispensing the medication along with computer records showing what was dispensed and sold at what time. That formed the basis of the contamination claim and that is what was accepted. But anyway Makes a much more fun story to say that Daryl came up with an excuse and it was simply a accepted.But here in lies my gripe. Why not publish this somewhere where people and fans and supporters etc can SEE it???After so many years after this is the first "follow up" I have heard/read. Would be nice.......And it can eliminate SOME of the chirri chirri behind the back wispers, no? BigDL 1
Spinnekop Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 [emoji23] [emoji23] ja it was during SA champs that all of this happened.. does anyone know if the bicarb capsules actually help prevent cramping - or what did he use it for. ? As I recall it was bicarb that was put into these contaminated capsules...There are quite a lot of interesting literature on Bicarb.......I have experimented on it....it turns out you ride a HELL OF LOT FASTER because you get serious case of the backdoor trots....... Gen and shaper 2
RocknRolla Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 There are quite a lot of interesting literature on Bicarb.......I have experimented on it....it turns out you ride a HELL OF LOT FASTER because you get serious case of the backdoor trots....... And here I thought it was because of the secret ingredient: Bicarbonate of Soda
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now