scuzzy Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Us cyclists need to start taking responsibility. The longer we blame others and claim we have the same rights, the longer it Wil take to earns respect.
Skubarra Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 This is a snaking back road with no yellow shoulder. The motorbikes and cars take chances on this road. They do not anticipate any cyclists (less a group of them) on this road. It is irresponsible to be riding in the road.I live down that road and ride it regularly. Hell, I even built a singletrack on my property, and set out a 15km loop around nabouring properties, to stay of it!Point is, anticipate the worst and prepare (act) accordingly Us cyclists need to start taking responsibility. The longer we blame others and claim we have the same rights, the longer it Wil take to earns respect. Referring to the 3 cyclists killed that is mentioned on "What is the PPA doing thread". To the best of my knowledge all 3 were killed on "safe" roads with wide shoulders, riding in broad daylight. In the Bottelary incident the person was riding in a group with loads of cyclists around - still didn't stop a motorist mowing him down. A comment on Twitter re this was - "Why are people still cycling on these roads? Everyone know it is unsafe" - very similar to the advice you are giving. Why do we not just advise cyclists to avoid roads altogether? I'm not saying go out and be reckless, but victim blaming and reinforcing the "lesser road user" perception among ourselves is also not going to make the roads safer.
Patchelicious Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Sorry, I am a bit daft.. Sent from my SM-G925F using TapatalkYour rant made that very clear.
Ozzie NL Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 I hate riding my mtb on the tar. It feels so slow compared to the road bike. Actually it sucks. Plus you wear all your knobblies off I need to ride about 600 meters of tar from my house to where the trails start and that is enough!+1 on that. Just feels all wrong
Goodbadugly Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Your rant made that very clear.Exactly.What happened to the concept of minding your own business?Dear mr Original poster. I never realized it is illegal to ride a mtb on tar. I assume you don't drive any kind of SUV/double cab/ Prado on surfaced roads?
Prince Albert Cycles Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 The comments on this thread gives a good explanation why we as a vulnerable group will never win this battle . We can not stand together . The OP' s concern was the safety of riders , nothing else . Just look at all the sarcastic remarks by some of our so called brothers . Not on .
BaGearA Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 The comments on this thread gives a good explanation why we as a vulnerable group will never win this battle . We can not stand together . The OP' s concern was the safety of riders , nothing else . Just look at all the sarcastic remarks by some of our so called brothers . Not on .this has been the best reply for this thread thus far. ^^
brucem76 Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Would you have a problem with a road cyclist riding along this route? So if an MTB rider takes an occasional ride on tar for variation, or does a section of their ride on tar to get to where they're riding off-road, whys that a problem? I ride a road ride every few months of my MTB for a change, not going to buy a road bike just to ride it 5 times a year Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
Stretch Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 The comments on this thread gives a good explanation why we as a vulnerable group will never win this battle . We can not stand together . The OP' s concern was the safety of riders , nothing else . Just look at all the sarcastic remarks by some of our so called brothers . Not on .Then it's should have been about cyclists riding on that section of road and not brought the fact that they were on mtb's into the equation
Louis for real Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Yes a peev and also the endless lycra because "racing"
LeoKnight Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 My own view (which is probably somewhere between being totally off the reservation and spot on). Is that we all believe in different approaches. Some feel we should not give any ammo to motorist and only focus on their bad behaviours and make them feel so ashamed in that they will by magic all of them (even the hardcore minority) change age old setter behaviour, and that showing weakness by driving on the side be cautious and trying to stay out of the way, will enforce the feeling of having more rights than cyclist on the road. The other side feels that there is a minority of people on the road that does not matter how much you talk / threaten with fines and jail time / message boards and notices / etc. they will still drive like idiots and endanger the lives of others (including pedestrians, cyclist and other motorists). I generall hold the view of the 2-6-2: 2 out of 10 people will always always do the right thing no matter how it impacts themselves 6 out of 10 people will depending on the societal pressures / fines / norms / circumstances affecting them either do the right or wrong thing and 2 out of 10 will just not care and will always end up doing the wrong thing when there is an oppurtunity (not saying they will so something with intent, just they won't care or try to think of the consequences) ok typed a bit longer than intended..
Patchelicious Posted February 4, 2017 Posted February 4, 2017 Shots firedIt was actually just a grappie, but I don't believe in the need to use comic sans to indicate sarcasm
CogitoErgoSum Posted February 4, 2017 Author Posted February 4, 2017 Your rant made that very clear.Exactly.What happened to the concept of minding your own business?Dear mr Original poster. I never realized it is illegal to ride a mtb on tar. I assume you don't drive any kind of SUV/double cab/ Prado on surfaced roads?Anythingbuthubapprovalonthisone...hahaWTF!!! No wait, *** of Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
CogitoErgoSum Posted February 4, 2017 Author Posted February 4, 2017 Would you have a problem with a road cyclist riding along this route? So if an MTB rider takes an occasional ride on tar for variation, or does a section of their ride on tar to get to where they're riding off-road, whys that a problem? I ride a road ride every few months of my MTB for a change, not going to buy a road bike just to ride it 5 times a year Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using TapatalkThen it's should have been about cyclists riding on that section of road and not brought the fact that they were on mtb's into the equationAny cyclist then for that matter! It just happened to be MTB. I was questioning their decision to deliberately putting themselves into a space where they can get hurt. Bleddie hell, my post was meant to be sincere. Supposing to be looking out for other cyclists. But alas, some fucktards that will always be full of it Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
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