Eldron Posted February 6, 2022 Share 7 hours ago, Andy Arnesan said: fantastic , you can hang in there with the best climbers, but what skills do you have going down a hill? Bro alert. Bro aleeeeeert! Steady Spin, vanniri, ChrisF and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Spin Posted February 6, 2022 Share 8 hours ago, Andy Arnesan said: fantastic , you can hang in there with the best climbers, but what skills do you have going down a hill? A very unique set of skillsĀ Edited February 6, 2022 by Steady Spin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted February 6, 2022 Share 8 hours ago, Andy Arnesan said: fantastic , you can hang in there with the best climbers, but what skills do you have going down a hill? does his skillset influence your riding negatively ?Ā Headshot and Pieterlab1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaratza Posted February 6, 2022 Share 8 hours ago, Andy Arnesan said: fantastic , you can hang in there with the best climbers, but what skills do you have going down a hill? I don't hold anyone up generally and when I do I'm kind enough to pull over š Trashy, ChrisF, TheoG and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted February 7, 2022 Share 10 hours ago, aquaratza said: I don't hold anyone up generally and when I do I'm kind enough to pull over š Just as long as the person coming up at a moerse speed behind you on an intermediate or beginner trail doesnt loose his **** mumbling mother f'er, ma se P etc like they do at To**** Happened to a newbie we too out at vasbyt a couple of weekends ago. Least to say, he does not want to ride there again. Headshot and ChrisF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trashy Posted February 7, 2022 Share 4 minutes ago, Eddy Gordo said: Just as long as the person coming up at a moerse speed behind you on an intermediate or beginner trail doesnt loose his **** mumbling mother f'er, ma se P etc like they do at To**** Happened to a newbie we too out at vasbyt a couple of weekends ago. Least to say, he does not want to ride there again. Seems like the problem lies with the Strava king, not the ebike rider. Ā I love pinning it down single track too, but that's never an excuse to be rude to another rider that is just trying to enjoy the sport as I am. Headshot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted February 7, 2022 Share 23 minutes ago, Trashy said: Seems like the problem lies with the Strava king, not the ebike rider. Ā I love pinning it down single track too, but that's never an excuse to be rude to another rider that is just trying to enjoy the sport as I am. Indeed, it is people chasing strava times. Best to do that on the advanced lines and leave the beginner lines to the newbs. Like really, who wants a KOM on a beginner line!!! Trashy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted February 7, 2022 Share On 1/30/2022 at 11:35 AM, aquaratza said: I did a ride yesterday with friends at Oak Valley, but someone new joined us (I didn't know who they were before hand). I was questioning whether I should take my non-eBike (Stumpy) or my Levo SL, eventually I decided on the Levo SL. I always worry that people will give me a hard time about the eBike or feel put out by it. For reference my SL does up to 240w output (vs a "full" Levo which can do up to 580w). Turned out the "wild card" rider was extremely strong and kept challenging me to races haha. We had a great time. I used 14% of the internal 320Wh battery over 2 hours, so around 23 Wh average per hour. So on top of range anxiety, eBikers now have a second phobia "fear of being judged". I mean seriously, Oak Valley. one of the smoothest easiest places to ride any kind of bike and you took your moto? Its so smooth its 26er and hard tail friendly. šĀ šĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted February 7, 2022 Share 57 minutes ago, Eddy Gordo said: Indeed, it is people chasing strava times. Best to do that on the advanced lines and leave the beginner lines to the newbs. Like really, who wants a KOM on a beginner line!!! IMO, If we'reĀ riding with a newb I think its our duty to educate them on trail etiquette. A slow rider needs to understand they're going to be passed and when someone who is faster comes up behind them, they should allow them to pass when its safe to, by stopping if necessary. Its not always about Strava, more often about finding the flow and riding at a pace that your comfy with that allows you to clear features and ride in the way you need to to enjoy it.Ā Yyyy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ouzo Posted February 7, 2022 Share 9 minutes ago, Headshot said: IMO, If we'reĀ riding with a newb I think its our duty to educate them on trail etiquette. A slow rider needs to understand they're going to be passed and when someone who is faster comes up behind them, they should allow them to pass when its safe to, by stopping if necessary. Its not always about Strava, more often about finding the flow and riding at a pace that your comfy with that allows you to clear features and ride in the way you need to to enjoy it.Ā like wise there is no reason for the faster rider to be swearing. Everyone has to start somewhere, and when you start you are generally much slower than others. Ā My wife will not ride at Big Red Barn anymore for the simple reason that the few times we've been there faster riders have been impatient getting past.Ā This when we're riding with 2 young kids. Ā But I also blame trails that combine parts of the easy beginner trails with the harder more experienced stuff. Eddy Gordo, ChrisF, Trashy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaratza Posted February 7, 2022 Share 17 minutes ago, Headshot said: So on top of range anxiety, eBikers now have a second phobia "fear of being judged". I mean seriously, Oak Valley. one of the smoothest easiest places to ride any kind of bike and you took your moto? Its so smooth its 26er and hard tail friendly. šĀ šĀ Yeah, I won't ride a hard tail. There are dating apps for that Ā TheĀ fear of being judgedĀ is good training for learning to not care, something I clearly need more of. I had a 26er for a while, it was perfectly capable, I rode most of the TMTBC trails with it (I also owned a 29er Camber at the time and I rode both for fun). I like trying new(and old) stuff because I like the experience... and I like the experience of having the flexibility that comes with an eBike. Trashy, ChrisF and Headshot 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted February 7, 2022 Share 1 minute ago, aquaratza said: Yeah, I won't ride a hard tail. There are dating apps for that Ā TheĀ fear of being judgedĀ is good training for learning to not care, something I clearly need more of. I had a 26er for a while, it was perfectly capable, I rode most of the TMTBC trails with it (I also owned a 29er Camber at the time and I rode both for fun). I like trying new(and old) stuff because I like the experience... and I like the experience of having the flexibility that comes with an eBike. Don't get me wrong, I'd love an eBike. They do create the opportunity to have some fun on threads like this though.Ā aquaratza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rorydewet Posted February 7, 2022 Share I get it about slow riders on the trails. And a lack of skills. But not sure why that is an e-bike kind of issue. The same holds good for guys on normal bikes. Guys riding trails way beyond their skills level and causing hassles. That's a bike problem not an E-bike problem per se Edited February 7, 2022 by rorydewet spelling Yyyy, Eddy Gordo, edkin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted February 7, 2022 Share 9 minutes ago, rorydewet said: I get it about slow riders on the trails. And a lack of skills. But not sure why that is an e-bike kind of issue. The same holds good for guys on normal bikes. Guys riding trails way beyond their skills level and causing hassles. That's a bike problem not an E-bike problem per se Sure, but an eBike allows more less fit and possibly less competent riders to hit trails they would not normally get to if they only had access to a normal bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rorydewet Posted February 7, 2022 Share 47 minutes ago, Headshot said: Sure, but an eBike allows more less fit and possibly less competent riders to hit trails they would not normally get to if they only had access to a normal bike. really? incompetent riders are e-bikers? wow.Ā Headshot and Pieterlab1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted February 7, 2022 Share 7 minutes ago, rorydewet said: really? incompetent riders are e-bikers? wow.Ā No, don't straw man me Rory. Read it again. BaGearA and Danger Dassie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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