General So is the Epic getting ahead of itself - elitism in the dining hall

[Patchelicious]

Vaseline will however be R500.

If you aren't able to just bite your pillow, close your eyes and take it "dry" you probably aren't tough enough for the Epic in the first place

[VicanZA]

This has been good reading for a Thursday! Love some of the chirps...

 

75k means it's never gonna happen for me, gonna have to stick to my cheap ass adventure racing.

[Phatman]

1. The choppers flying around the whole day doesn't come cheap.

 

2. Someones got to sponsor the food and drink at the hospitality tent. R1800 for a ticket is utterly disgraceful hence why I would never visit it.

 

 

On another point. I see nothing wrong with a drum full of water. The plastic bottles should not be available. Just think of the amount of unnecessary waste generated. We can all do our part and stop paying for water. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with tap water.

But what if the ph is wrong and it affects their performance?

[Patchelicious]

But what if the ph is wrong and it affects their performance?

Then just ask Hincappie for a sip....

[coppi]

Not enough helicopters

Not UCI event

Nothing for missus to do

Not enough international exposure

Too hot

nothing to do in Mpumalanga???

 

 

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[Thor Buttox]

But what if the ph is wrong and it affects their performance?

Then Phatmen would be Fatmen and they wouldn't even be in the Epic.

[Skylark]

It often happens when the success and money goes to the organizers head and then the plebs get treated like shaaite, because if you don't like it we have a queue to do our race thank you very much so basically we'll feel free to bend you over any which way we please.

[Pure Savage]

When someone tells me they have done epic, this look appears on my face.

 

 

Having seen the "celebs" that trudge though and finish sort of removes the "untamed" ness of it a little. 

 

Then you have to do your own laundry and bring your own water bottles to dinner, you not even get treated like you are at a premium event. 

[Bonus]

Been making this sum in my head:

 

EPIC:

 

R 75 000 for team of two -  R 37 500 per person for 8 days/nights = R 4 687,50 pppd

 

S2C:

 

R 13 900 for team of 2 - R 6 950 per person for 3 days/nights = R 2 316,66 pppd

 

QUESTION to okes/ladies who've done both: (I've only done S2C)

 

What makes EPIC charges double?

 

 

Supply and demand. As simple as that.

[Bonus]

Kind of like how I felt watching the MTB film festival last night - US and EU guys taking strain on their 3 day bike packing trips and "getting away from city life" ... makes you realize how far their realities are away from many if not most of our fellow SA's .

 

Wait until you come visit us in Spain. We have all the water you need - but we will make you earn it! :-)

[SwissVan]

but running out of water on a premier event on a very hot day where competitors faced a very real threat of heat exhaustion and dehydration is unforgivable.

 

Maybe some of those riders that were hospitalised for kidney failures should have a wee chat with her. 

 

 

To be paying that much and you are only allowed one bottle of water and being treated like a child. Not on.

 

 

 

When someone tells me they have done epic, this look appears on my face.

 

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and bring your own water bottles to dinner,  

 

^  Joh some exaggerations going on here ^

 

READ THIS 

 

To be more accurate - they ran out of bottled water one evening - but not out of water totally - some teams were taking 10 bottles at a time to tables and back to tents.

 

 

 

You all know bottling water in little plastic bottles should be a crime?

[Slowbee]

so here you are ranting away

 

how many of you are planing on entering for next year in one way shape or form ?

 

AANNNNNDDDD, are those international entrants complaining ? is any of this going to cause a change? other than charging and epic hardcore corkage fee (price excluding vaseline). i doubt it.

[Thor Buttox]

^ Joh some exaggerations going on here ^

 

READ THIS

 

 

 

You all know bottling water in little plastic bottles should be a crime?

When I order tap water at a restaurant I get looked at like I am the organiser of a local multi-stage cycling race. Reckon V12 was probably onto something with that post.

[sometime]

FFS I'd forgotten what a bunch of cry babies populate this forum. The same who whinge about race prices, and bike shop owners who dare charge them when they just 'pop in' on a Saturday morning with their dirty bike expecting the owner to just drop everything and help them. The same lot who diss races they've never done or bikes they've never ridden. Who complain when there's a bottleneck at a race, but don't want to put in the hours of training to get seeded in bunches where there are no bottle necks

 

The Epic is what it is; an unashamedly commercialistic event. They will give you the best product they can within the return they need to make on their investment. That means looking after their sponsors and their guests and giving the rest the best they think they can get away with. If you do the race expecting anything else you're naive and ignorant to the nature of professional sports. You either choose to accept that and do the race, or you don't and you don't do it. This is not complicated I promise. But FFS dont do it and then whine because you're too lazy/busy/cool to carry your own water bottle to the table which you filled up at the water bowser outside filled with thousands of litres of fresh, clean, environmentely friendly, drinking water.

[Eugene Oppelt]

Just saw the video with Usher

 

Was this always the case or is it just conditions one can expect from 2017 onwards?

[Matchstix]

Epic stopped being epic in 2008. Food is shite considering what you pay.

Untamed. . They had to shorten a stage because some o the absa premium lanies might not comp the stage. Even that was a stuff up to a degree to get bikes to the next spot spot. Some bikes only arrived after 9 that night. Couple stomach bugs was doing the rounds as well.

I have sampled the food over the years and the best food I had was in 2005 epic. Some complaints I have heard is not enough pasta.