PhilipV Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 Might be the first thing breaking off / bending in a small crash.Guess insurance companies will hate it... Have you ever bent a disc rotor in a crash? Or broken a QR/TA lever?
Rudi Pollard Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 When people leak their own stuff.... The site for the 2018 Epic went live "accidentally" on Tuesday for an hour or two...
madbradd Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 Threaded BB..... they going back to 24mm spindles or are 30mm BSA BBs going to become more readily available?
Shebeen Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 So seems like this is the new 2018 S-works Epic FSR. Interesting that the FSR has been replaced with Single Pivot Design....Flex like Scalpel / Spark. I'm no suspension expert, but am I right in saying that this is not actually a true single pivot?
Mongoose! Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 Have you ever bent a disc rotor in a crash? Or broken a QR/TA lever?guess this "brain" will protect the TA in a crach as first contact point to the ground ja
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I'm no suspension expert, but am I right in saying that this is not actually a true single pivot?but it is. It's got an uninterrupted bar from the main pivot to the axle. Hence, single pivot. It's a linkage actuated single pivot design. Yes, it has flex in the seatstays, but that doesn't mean it's not a single pivot.
Pure Savage Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I'm no suspension expert, but am I right in saying that this is not actually a true single pivot?There is only one pivot... the other is a linkage
stringbean Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 Heard via the grape vine they hired main tech guys from cannondale 2 years ago to help get the bike lighter and this is what they've come up with.Bottom line is they've gone from leaders to playing catch up with cannondale/Scott.How is that "innovate or die" slogan working out for them now?
Headshot Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 This was leaked on the specialized website late on Tuesday... "Let’s be honest with each other—XC riding and racing has changed. Gone are the race courses that resembled walking paths through the park. In are sections of trail that could be mistaken for an enduro track. We knew we had to address the sharp, often intimidating ride characteristics of XC bikes, so everything was thrown out the window and we started from scratch. We increased the reach to make for a longer, more stable front end. To keep the rider position consistent with what we have today, we shortened the stem length, which also makes for quick handling. The head angle, meanwhile, was slackened by 1.5 degrees to create an aggressive 69.5-degree angle. Those two changes combine to create a bike that's much more confident at speed and descending through steep and rough terrain. But you're probably thinking, "That slack of a head angle will make a cross country bike floppy and slow, right?" Wrong. The bike and suspension team tested dozens of tuning setups and fork offsets until settling on what gave us the best balance of stability and snappy handling, leaving you with a 42mm fork offset. You can have your cake and eat it, too." Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkAll true but rather late to the party considering that they had already embraced this kind of geo in 2010 with their trail bikes. I doubt the HL offered much in the way of benefits on an XCO course - probably more so on marathons where it 'may" have been a bit more active under braking on long descents. What confuses me is that they still have the brain system which to my mind is superfluous and weighty. All that said, it looks like the Spaz will gain back lost ground in the SA XCM market with this beast...
Jurgens Smit Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 Heard via the grape vine they hired main tech guys from cannondale 2 years ago to help get the bike lighter and this is what they've come up with.Bottom line is they've gone from leaders to playing catch up with cannondale/Scott.How is that "innovate or die" slogan working out for them now? I'm sure we'll see in the next 3 months or so when all the mamils are 'racing' their 2018 epics
stringbean Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I would have kept the HL and dropped the brain.M2C
stringbean Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I'm sure we'll see in the next 3 months or so when all the mamils are 'racing' their 2018 epicsThey've already switched to cannondale
spy Posted June 29, 2017 Author Posted June 29, 2017 Heard via the grape vine they hired main tech guys from cannondale 2 years ago to help get the bike lighter and this is what they've come up with.Bottom line is they've gone from leaders to playing catch up with cannondale/Scott.How is that "innovate or die" slogan working out for them now? Not sure who you are referring to but Peter Denk has left Dale to go to the BIG S....
stringbean Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 Not sure who you are referring to but Peter Denk has left Dale to go to the BIG S.... Yep
Odinson Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 They've already switched to cannondale Nah, they're all on Spark RCs.
Mongoose! Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 Nah, they're all on Spark RCs. no -everyone now wants two bottles in the triangle man
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