South Africa - The Land of Inequality

[Imploder]

I found it really interesting that where I though I was positioned and where I actually am positioned are worlds apart. 

 

How about you? 

 

http://www.saldru.uct.ac.za/income-comparison-tool/

[IceCreamMan]

Sad thing is under the ANC government with all the programs to alleviate poverty etc the gini has lengthened so inequality in ZA from a financial perspective is worse now than under the previous regime.

[Slowbee]

Sad thing is under the ANC government with all the programs to alleviate poverty etc the gini has lengthened so inequality in ZA from a financial perspective is worse now than under the previous regime.

and under trump ?

[IceCreamMan]

and under trump ?

Bit soon to tell, let’s give it a while. The leftist press,certainly seem to believe one thing and the rightest press another. Some of the initiatives implemented by trump should reduce inequality and some probably would increase inequality.

[Gambithunt]

I was working in Mitchells Plain and Khayelitsha a month ago, doing interviews with local residents. A theme that carried through almost every interview, that we were all surprised by is that the residents think of themselves as far worse off now that they were 20 years ago. It was similar when the residents of Soweto were interviewed. Really bummed me out.

[sias]

I was working in Mitchells Plain and Khayelitsha a month ago, doing interviews with local residents. A theme that carried through almost every interview, that we were all surprised by is that the residents think of themselves as far worse off now that they were 20 years ago. It was similar when the residents of Soweto were interviewed. Really bummed me out.

but...but...apartheid?

[Stretch]

Scary thing.. Living in the top 15% or whatever and we were still living on the edge without a massive rent or bond. How people earning less survive I have no idea

[sawystertrance]

I was working in Mitchells Plain and Khayelitsha a month ago, doing interviews with local residents. A theme that carried through almost every interview, that we were all surprised by is that the residents think of themselves as far worse off now that they were 20 years ago. It was similar when the residents of Soweto were interviewed. Really bummed me out.

 

Did you ask them what they thought was the reason?

[Sidersky]

Interestingly, was talking on WhatsApp to a mate in London last night.

 

According to the figures he has:

GDP per Capita:

UK $43.6k

SA $13.4k

[Mopkop]

I found it really interesting that where I though I was positioned and where I actually am positioned are worlds apart. 

 

How about you? 

 

http://www.saldru.uct.ac.za/income-comparison-tool/

Just used this tool

 

HOLY SH!T!!!          

[eddy]

This report (And typically the way they use Gini to describe inequality) looks at inequality of INCOME and is thus skewed by the large proportion of our population that is unemployed and therefore earned zero.

 

Also, purely by putting in some values and checking the results, I think (but could be wrong) that they have not included any social grants into "income" which will move the bottom percentile very significantly.

 

The only sustainable way to change this it to get more people working by growing the economy.

Edited July 20, 2018 by eddy

[Shebeen]

another way to look at it...if it's so bad here, why do we still have immigrants?

 

 

must be really BAD elsewhere!

[Vetplant]

another way to look at it...if it's so bad here, why do we still have immigrants?

 

 

must be really BAD elsewhere!

Yoh, really competing against the cream of the crop, lovely flourishing countries listed there

[stefmeister]

This report (And typically the way they use Gini to describe inequality) looks at inequality of INCOME and is thus skewed by the large proportion of our population that is unemployed and therefore earned zero.

 

Also, purely by putting in some values and checking the results, I think (but could be wrong) that they have not included any social grants into "income" which will move the bottom percentile very significantly.

 

The only sustainable way to change this it to get more people working by growing the economy.

Yeah, that thing is wrong. I don't drive a new Range rover and S-works every year.

[Stretch]

 

 

another way to look at it...if it's so bad here, why do we still have immigrants?

 

 

must be really BAD elsewhere!

South Africa's "immigration policy" is really screwed up. Uneducated people that won't contribute taxes from Africa can easily "immigrate".. But skilled potential tax payers from around the world (and Africa) have to jump through hoops if they do it legally.

[Uni]

Sad thing is under the ANC government with all the programs to alleviate poverty etc the gini has lengthened so inequality in ZA from a financial perspective is worse now than under the previous regime.

I'm not so sure about this - it might seem so , but back then the percentage of the population that was counted as to matter was what - 5%*?  *thumb suck