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That’s all it would take to satisfy rational people.

 

On a more general point: Sometimes a response, even a well intended one, seems to draw the blood thirsty Twitteraty out and things escalate... think The Streisand Effect.

 

The OP isn't just looking for any response or an explanation.

 

He is asking for a change in editorial policy and a printed apology.

 

IMO the aggressive way he worded his email probably antagonized hubbers who otherwise might have been sympathetic to his complaint.

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At the moment, this thread is so interesting on say many levels.

 

Offensive, morals and all such jazz.

 

But somehow this seems to be part of the new trend. The apparent use of social media (or the internet) to take make a point, to be heard. Make it viral. Hit the serotonin. Get gang support. Lets get everyone on board.

 

Certainly risky, since the plan can backfire, as not everyone may agree with you. Certainly risky, because you can get famous, as every one agrees with you.

 

But make no mistake, we need these kind of posts. It gets us talking, just a pity we have to do it anonymously for so many of the important topics. Kind of like trolling and rambling. I need to go look for spock. I need to be beemed up, as opposed to beemered.

I'm happy to see a mod support the difficult discussions!

I also thing its necessary and good (minus any pettiness, name calling and profanities)

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To be fair, you drew that inference.

 

To clarify.

 

I think a response would be good.

 

I believe that good manners and common decency are important to our society.

 

I also believe that we can’t force someone to response because we believe it’s what should be done.

 

If we feel that not responding to this letter is a display that goes against what we beleive, then we have the right to say so. But again, we are not ENTITLED to a response. That is the responders choice.

 

I hope that makes sense, as we are arguing two different points.

Thanks for the gift!!

 

 

500 up with a Letterkenny post - pretty sweet

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Thanks for the invitation, but no thanks.

 

Hi Tim. Care to share your take on this subject and maybe how you as the editor would have handled it? :)

 

Jan,

 

I'm guessing you're a longtime subscriber/reader of Bicycling, even from days of yore when Tim was the chief of that particular village. (and if memory serves, he was even editor of a golfing magazine before then too - he will deny this, naturally)

 

I'm also guessing that this is the first FBomb Bicycling has ever dropped. It wouldn't have offended me, but I respect your opinion and your right to complain.

 

Tim is probably being diplomatic because he is currently the editor of RIDE and feels that he can't be impartial (my guess). The good thing is that you did at least get a reply from him.

 

I suggest you buy a copy. I love the new direction/focus they have gone for.

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Hi Tim. Care to share your take on this subject and maybe how you as the editor would have handled it? :)

 

I can share how our marketing manager would have handled it.

 

"I am currently out of office and will be returning to work on the 24th of September and will respond on my return. For any urgent matters please create a post on the hub."

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That 'bogan' article was the most try hard, self promotion and personal brand pushing that I've seen in a long time. Not withstanding they totally missed what a bogan is and what bogan is in popular culture. 

 

Exactly, quite an irritating article. So called bogans on 80k bikes with Castelli clothing.

Wealthy Cape Town tw@ts that think that drinking Black Label is roughing it.

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Exactly, quite an irritating article. So called bogans on 80k bikes with Castelli clothing.

Wealthy Cape Town tw@ts that think that drinking Black Label is roughing it.

Drinking Black Label is roughing it, terrible stuff.

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Methinks there are too many Hubers reading magazines (hard copy or downloaded ????) whilst Zwifting and pondering if we have the right coffee machine, bike shop, gear ratio or if the lady pro section will up our max HR. Maybe we should all go and ride our damned bikes and enjoy it (waving or not waving at roadies/ runners or MtBers) . Damn I know I need to ride, hope the damn wasn’t to harsh and I needed to insert emoticons, asterisks or comic sans. Long live thebikehub, it’s better than a realpub!

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