Everesting World Record Attempt

[Fat Boab]

Large scale meat production is environmentally unsustainable so it's probably not a bad thing that there are people out there that are actively telling people to eat more plants and less meat. It's not just a "my body my choice" problem, it's a global issue. But unfortunately this guy will probably have the opposite impact. It's all a bit arrogant, potty-mouthed and self-righteous.

 

And to pre-empt any chirps from people rolling their eyes reading this - I'm not a vegan. 

 

100%. But as you say, find a differing way of telling the message...

[Edition 507]

Large scale meat production is environmentally unsustainable so it's probably not a bad thing that there are people out there that are actively telling people to eat more plants and less meat. It's not just a "my body my choice" problem, it's a global issue. 

 

Eating meat is not the problem, global population is. Nothing is environmentally sustainable against the onslaught of exponential human population growth!

[Duane_Bosch]

Eating meat is not the problem, global population is. Nothing is environmentally sustainable against the onslaught of exponential human population growth!

YES!

[Jewbacca]

I'm not here for the Vegan bashing. 

 

I'm here because captain braggy McBragpants told everyone he was going to do something, even answered questions on the 'science' behind his decisions, fuelled the fire with his Socials.....

 

And then.......

 

Yeah nah, I'm not even going to try. Sorry. There's just no f*****g way.

 

So a never ran... But please read my blog, shower me with binery love and support blah blah blah

 

I couldn't care if he only ate asparagus and beetroot and has the raddest smelling pink wee in the world, IMHO he went about this all wrong and unVeganly has egg on his face.

 

This could have been avoided by attempting first and then releasing an enthralling home made documentary of his attempt/success.

 

I could have gotten behind that. 

[pe3nguin]

I love me some good old fashion Hub Kangaroo Court.

That was a fun read on Tuesday morning. Thanks Team.

[NGM]

Eating meat is not the problem, global population is. Nothing is environmentally sustainable against the onslaught of exponential human population growth!

I agree. Population is definitely the biggest problem. But for the same surface area, plants can feed more people and it's far less destructive than, say, commercial beef. I would love to see fewer people on earth but I don't plan to significantly reducing the numbers myself. So I'm trying to control/fix the things I can. I eat meat (heck we have the evolutionary tools to do so), but probably only once a week on average and even then it's from (expensive) ethically sourced suppliers. 

 

By you logic above, there's no point in recycling either because it's not sustainable in the face of a population explosion. It doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. 

[Duane_Bosch]

...but you have mentioned it at least twice on this thread 

 

 

LOL. Indeed. Said from my high horse and the appropriate moral high ground of course. Which is approximately half way between prius owners and vegans.

[Duane_Bosch]

 

By you logic above, there's no point in recycling either because it's not sustainable in the face of a population explosion. It doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. 

there are 8.5 billion people on the planet. a little internetting tells me it can sustain 11ish billion. What happens when we hit 12?

 

I think it's fair to say that at this point recycling, plant based diets, commuting by bike, solar geysers etc etc etc are merely delaying the inevitable.

 

But fear not. The planet will be fine. We won't tho. The old girl is going to shake us like a bad cold.

[NGM]

I think it's fair to say that at this point recycling, plant based diets, commuting by bike, solar geysers etc etc etc are merely delaying the inevitable.

 

But fear not. The planet will be fine. We won't tho. The old girl is going to shake us like a bad cold.

So I'm not the only george carlin fan then.  

[Shebeen]

the hub is alive with sound of tjooning!

 

 

 

I'm here because captain braggy McBragpants told everyone he was going to do something, even answered questions on the 'science' behind his decisions, fuelled the fire with his Socials.....

 

AIMHO he went about this all wrong and unVeganly has egg on his face.

 

 

ha ha ha, classic.

[Shebeen]

I think the whole thing about blaming the hill is a bit meh.

He really thinks that the only place to do it is the current record hill, just a bit convenient that it's half a world away. What's excellent about that one is that it's 1.3km long and 13%

 

so i found this one on strava in pretoria

https://www.strava.com/segments/8044962

he has the current KOM, it's 1.2km @12%

 

I even put it into the everesting calculator and posted it on his youtube video as a comment.

http://bit.ly/2ImNg53

am waiting for him to reply, but am starting to think

 

"that's not going to f#$%^#ing happen"

[Ozzie NL]

I've been following this thread and I'm really so perplexed by the behaviour here. 

 

Here we have a Saffer cyclist attempting a world record on home soil and instead folks on a Saffer cycling forum rallying behind him in either success or failure, the collective decision is made to launch puerile ad hominen attacks at the cyclist and then go off on an anti-vegan tangent. 

 

Are you okes so triggered by the fact that he's wearing a vegan jersey and advertises his lifestyle? If he were wearing a CANSA or SPCA jersey nary a word would've been said. 

 

I've watched his video and the way he presents himself and it's not endearing, but ask yourself, is it worthy of these insults? Many, many people advertise and hype up such attempts at records and then fail. David Goggins made two public attempts at the world pull-up record, failing both times.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember this guy posting "I'm going to smash a world record to show you corpse munching ***** I'm superior as a vegan". If he did, then he's an arsehole, but if he didn't then the areshole's not him. 

 

Ultimately, the **** posted here says more about the you all than this cyclist. 

Am with Odison on this.

 

Sure the guy behaves a bit like a twit on a blog but I am willing to write it down to youthful exuberance.

 

Like the fact that a SAFFA is taking up a challenge like this and hop he gives it a go at some time.

 

It wasn't thought through properly and even a corpse muncher would have failed on that specific hill (IMHO). Disagree with the vegan that a record attempt can only be done in Oz as we have plenty of longer sheepish hill just not in GT. Maybe some Capies / KZN-ers can point him in the right direction?

[Edition 507]

I agree. Population is definitely the biggest problem. But for the same surface area, plants can feed more people and it's far less destructive than, say, commercial beef. I would love to see fewer people on earth but I don't plan to significantly reducing the numbers myself. So I'm trying to control/fix the things I can. I eat meat (heck we have the evolutionary tools to do so), but probably only once a week on average and even then it's from (expensive) ethically sourced suppliers. 

 

By you logic above, there's no point in recycling either because it's not sustainable in the face of a population explosion. It doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. 

The problem here is that the first world are recycling, using less fossil fuels and also have a negative population growth (bar the USA which has a positive population growth due to third world immigration). The third world that is the culprit of exponential population growth is also the primary contributor of environmental destruction and pollution. 90% of the plastic in our oceans comes from third world countries that have zero regard for the environment.

So yes, the bit that you are doing towards sustainability is our duty as custodians of the planet but has absolutely zero effect in reducing global pollution and destruction.

 

Additionally, I put forward to you that being a vegan (on a global scale) would have a monumentally bigger negative impact on the environment than if we maintain the current meat/plant consumption ratio. The logic behind this is that calorie value in plant matter is so low compared to meat that to maintain the current global levels of an adequate nutrition as vegans, 10 times more agricultural output would be needed to produce enough food. There is simply just not enough arable land (or water) in the entire world to be able to meet such an astronomical calorie requirement sourced purely from low yield plant matter. This is just a thumb-suck/guesstimate, I am too lazy to calculate real figures, but just from looking at global stats it may not be a far out hypothesis, so, I think eating meat, like recycling, is my contribution to saving the planet.

[Edition 507]

there are 8.5 billion people on the planet. a little internetting tells me it can sustain 11ish billion. What happens when we hit 12?

 

I think it's fair to say that at this point recycling, plant based diets, commuting by bike, solar geysers etc etc etc are merely delaying the inevitable.

 

But fear not. The planet will be fine. We won't tho. The old girl is going to shake us like a bad cold.

You are quite correct sir. We have entered the sixth mass extinction of species in Earths history caused by human population growth. Humans are also one of those species that will go extinct, unless Elon gets us to Mars. The Earth has been through this 5 times before, it will recover, new species will evolve over time and life will continue.

[NotSoBigBen]

Could we not keep the vegan discussion to the topic already created and focus on the attempt or rather failed attempt here? At the risk of repeating the whole thing all over again ....

[s14phoenix]

I cant wait for the zombie apocalypse when we all start eating meat again... mmmmmmmmm yummmmm