It's me man Posted July 23, 2019 Share Hi I'm in the Southern suburbs but happy to trek somewhere to do a proper 20min ftp test - Any suggestions please and no, i'm not interested in using a trainer. shot a lot Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Wakefield Posted July 23, 2019 Share Westlake robots up Oukaaps to silver mine parkingTokai Mast Tar Pure Savage and DieselnDust 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted July 23, 2019 Share Depends how fast you are I guess, Up to signal hill would be a 20 min effort for me at the moment. davidtinker 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Wakefield Posted July 23, 2019 Share Depends how fast you are I guess, Up to signal hill would be a 20 min effort for me at the moment. you lose to much on the downhill mid section Pure Savage 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Wakefield Posted July 23, 2019 Share Im not a overall fan of using 20min @ 95% as your FTP and believe its value is over stated but another good segment is Geneva drive to the cable car in camps bay. Around 15min but more predictable as a value for ftp. CyclingStuff, Andrew_Smith, Pure Savage and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave303e Posted July 23, 2019 Share If you don't mind me asking- why are you not interested in a trainer? Wind, temp, road conditions and other factors can be controlled better surely? tjommies3 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted July 23, 2019 Share Im not a overall fan of using 20min @ 95% as your FTP and believe its value is over stated but another good segment is Geneva drive to the cable car in camps bay. Around 15min but more predictable as a value for ftp.Interesting. What percentage of that 15mins power average would you then use as an FTP? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomo Posted July 23, 2019 Share Camps Drive is what I meant (not Geneva Dr) and the Glen are normally popular suggestions.Some would say a controlled, indoor environment rather. Edited July 23, 2019 by Thomo Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomik Posted July 23, 2019 Share Two options: Camps Bay Drive from robots to the Cable Car (slightly less steep than Geneva) or Camps Bay robots to top of Suikerbossie. Good mix of flat and uphill so probably more realistic than a straight uphill. around 19min at 240w...so might not be long enough for you... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted July 23, 2019 Share Hi I'm in the Southern suburbs but happy to trek somewhere to do a proper 20min ftp test - Any suggestions please and no, i'm not interested in using a trainer. shot a lot so a few things pop up: 1. Why would you even want to do an FTP test. Is that not for fitness junkies in tights ? 2. Dont you work in some or other country with flat roads, go do that FTP there (#jealous) 3. Using the words "shot" and having an avatar of a guy with a rifle on a bicycle, ummmm (ok maybe point 2 is no longer valid so I withdraw) #trollingtrouble Rocket-Boy 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtr1 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Do a lactate threshold test instead ......... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertWhitehead Posted July 23, 2019 Share What is the value of an FTP? I'm not asking because I'm a knob, I'm merely asking because I don't really understand.I can understand the math behind it and can understand why its something to know when you're in a discussion with a scientist over a coffee or in a lab, but what does the value of your FTP help you when out on a ride?I mean when I'm going up a climb and I see someone flying past me, do I ask him / her: Hey, what's your FTP for you to be able to ride so much faster than me up his particular climb? I bet that that person will not even be bothered with FTP . All I'm trying to say is that we geek out about all the numbers but sometimes forget that there's sooooooo many variables on the day that have an effect on our performance. Sure, you use the FTP as a measuring tool to see your progress over a period of time but one need to remember that the purpose of an FTP is to measure your power output in a controlled environment Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanroyal Posted July 23, 2019 Share What is the value of an FTP? I'm not asking because I'm a knob, I'm merely asking because I don't really understand.I can understand the math behind it and can understand why its something to know when you're in a discussion with a scientist over a coffee or in a lab, but what does the value of your FTP help you when out on a ride?I mean when I'm going up a climb and I see someone flying past me, do I ask him / her: Hey, what's your FTP for you to be able to ride so much faster than me up his particular climb? I bet that that person will not even be bothered with FTP . All I'm trying to say is that we geek out about all the numbers but sometimes forget that there's sooooooo many variables on the day that have an effect on our performance. Sure, you use the FTP as a measuring tool to see your progress over a period of time but one need to remember that the purpose of an FTP is to measure your power output in a controlled environment Froomedawg should be able to tell you as he's constantly watching his output and then catching the guys that rode on feel....ai I miss him..???? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted July 23, 2019 Share What is the value of an FTP? I'm not asking because I'm a knob, I'm merely asking because I don't really understand.I can understand the math behind it and can understand why its something to know when you're in a discussion with a scientist over a coffee or in a lab, but what does the value of your FTP help you when out on a ride?I mean when I'm going up a climb and I see someone flying past me, do I ask him / her: Hey, what's your FTP for you to be able to ride so much faster than me up his particular climb? I bet that that person will not even be bothered with FTP . All I'm trying to say is that we geek out about all the numbers but sometimes forget that there's sooooooo many variables on the day that have an effect on our performance. Sure, you use the FTP as a measuring tool to see your progress over a period of time but one need to remember that the purpose of an FTP is to measure your power output in a controlled environment One personal anecdotal story of where my power figures helped me: I eyed a specific event. I knew the route and there was a specific uphill stretch that I earmarked for an attack. I went to my power history profile to know how many Watts I can push for 6mins without bombing out, and memorized that number. Come race day, a break established long before my specific earmarked point on the route, but I wanted to bridge to them and used the same point to launch my bridge attempt and kept to the power I knew I could sustain for that stretch of road. Long story short, I caught them just as that stretch ended with barely anything left in the tank. I then sat on for the next 10kms, catching my breath and then beat the other 3 in the sprint to take the W. My Power Readings helped me guage my effort, not the 1hour FTP specifically, but rather the full history of sustained power levels for different times that I had built up and kept record of. I knew what my body was capable of and stuck to that. If I didn't have the power readings on the bike I might have blown up in the first two minutes or under-powered my attempt and missed them before the descent. Andrew_Smith, DieselnDust, RobertWhitehead and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanievb Posted July 23, 2019 Share Im not a overall fan of using 20min @ 95% as your FTP and believe its value is over stated but another good segment is Geneva drive to the cable car in camps bay. Around 15min but more predictable as a value for ftp.How about a few laps around a track? 8min efforts or even test to failure you recommended in the TSS thread a while back. Wouldn't it help with consistency? Especially if you have to test throughout a training plan. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertWhitehead Posted July 23, 2019 Share Awesome, thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. I knew it had benefits but I've never rode in a peleton or done any road race (other than the 94.7 on the mtb) so my frame of reference has always been a solo riding Snip Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/182858-where-is-good-stretch-of-road-for-20min-ftp-test/#findComment-3531188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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