CAAD4 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Shoulder chips or lays/fritos /simba salt&vinegarExactly. Make it a family bag, or buy a smoker for all the Tjips.... DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 18, 2019 Share An eBike category has been added to the road race I’m associated with, for the shorter distance only. Why the short distance? It’s not a seeding event for other races so it doesn’t really matter if they have a timing chip or not. The youth category is managed by an official, so the rest are purely fun riders. There aren’t any prizes, for position, other than the racing categories. There will be podium acknowledgment (bragging rights) for the top 3 in the tandems and AL bunch, and spot prizes for the masses. If anyone wants to race, they need a racing license, which will be hard for an eBike person to use in the racing categories. We may lose a few people as a result, but we can’t please all, all of the time. ChrisF, DieselnDust and gogo@ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchanan Posted August 18, 2019 Share There is no way e-bikes should be permitted in timed races along with normal bikes. I'd ban them for life. Dgas, Mr. G and MBMtbGirl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@grootlem Posted August 18, 2019 Share I'm all for people getting out there and get healthy exercise and share our beautiful sport. But its interesting checking this topic after my altercation with ebikes on an event last weekend. An ebike team of two were pacing a team we were competing in for the mixed category podium in a stage race. The last straw for me was when the bigshot man on the ebike stopped at a waterpoint and collected supplements and stuff for the team competing against us while they carried on riding. Please don't interfere in the racing (even old people racing for a podium in mixed teams). We all exchanged unpleasant words after the event. I apologized for using the P word (not pedalpower) but bigshot sponsor maintained I'm an competitive asshole because i didn't stop the previous day when someone crashed. Darrynbp, Puncture Kid, gogo@ and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boab Posted August 18, 2019 Share Your argument for ebikes in the shorter event seem v rational. It seems 947 have done the opposite to you. Any thoughts to why they've done it that way? An eBike category has been added to the road race I’m associated with, for the shorter distance only. Why the short distance? It’s not a seeding event for other races so it doesn’t really matter if they have a timing chip or not. The youth category is managed by an official, so the rest are purely fun riders. There aren’t any prizes, for position, other than the racing categories. There will be podium acknowledgment (bragging rights) for the top 3 in the tandems and AL bunch, and spot prizes for the masses. If anyone wants to race, they need a racing license, which will be hard for an eBike person to use in the racing categories. We may lose a few people as a result, but we can’t please all, all of the time. Frosty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikebloke Posted August 18, 2019 Share Your argument for ebikes in the shorter event seem v rational. It seems 947 have done the opposite to you. Any thoughts to why they've done it that way? ,,,because ebikes are disguised MoPeds and not bicycles maybe ..? but backed by bicycle industry money .... Edited August 18, 2019 by bikebloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted August 18, 2019 Share It's simple. Just boycott any event that permits e-bikes. And let the organisers know why you refuse to enter. That'll pretty soon ensure that events are properly seperated.That's your IMO, wont stop me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 18, 2019 Share Your argument for ebikes in the shorter event seem v rational. It seems 947 have done the opposite to you. Any thoughts to why they've done it that way? Maybe, with an eBike, they (947) think they are capable of finishing the long distance. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted August 18, 2019 Share I'm all for people getting out there and get healthy exercise and share our beautiful sport. But its interesting checking this topic after my altercation with ebikes on an event last weekend. An ebike team of two were pacing a team we were competing in for the mixed category podium in a stage race. The last straw for me was when the bigshot man on the ebike stopped at a waterpoint and collected supplements and stuff for the team competing against us while they carried on riding. Please don't interfere in the racing (even old people racing for a podium in mixed teams). We all exchanged unpleasant words after the event. I apologized for using the P word (not pedalpower) but bigshot sponsor maintained I'm an competitive asshole because i didn't stop the previous day when someone crashed. and there will always be that 1% that messes it up for the rest ..... I am SURE there were many other ebike riders on that same event that had a wonderfull time out in nature, with zero impact on the race results .... should be easy enough to take a short video of these - both the ebikers and the cheaters -hand it over to the race officials and remove them from the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted August 18, 2019 Share and there will always be that 1% that messes it up for the rest ..... I am SURE there were many other ebike riders on that same event that had a wonderfull time out in nature, with zero impact on the race results .... should be easy enough to take a short video of these - both the ebikers and the cheaters -hand it over to the race officials and remove them from the results. Or just don't mix them then you don't have to sort out complaints afterwards? Think the hub-narrative that it's "only 1%" making trouble while the rest is happy to cruise slowly at the back of the field is incredibly naive. gogo@, BigDL, Patchelicious and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted August 18, 2019 Share I lost my KOM to an ebike. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted August 18, 2019 Share But by not mixing ebikes with push bikes you ignore the reality that mtb events are challenged for numbers and that attracting growing segments of the market is important for event survival Frosty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted August 18, 2019 Share If you ride an eBike in a normal pedal bicycle category and you use a timing chip, that is cheating. Don’t try and shift the guilt by saying that “so what it’s just a casual event” or blaming the organizers. What’s next? “Oh let me use some EPO so that I can keep up with my friends it’s only a fun event, so what do you care?” It might not affect the actual outcome to other people (unless it’s cases like Grootlems) but it does make you a cheat. Own it. Edited August 18, 2019 by Patchelicious Puncture Kid, buchanan, BigDL and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchanan Posted August 18, 2019 Share If you ride an eBike in normal pedal bicycle category and you use a timing chip, you that is cheating. Don’t try and shift the guilt by saying that “so what it’s just a casual event” or blaming the organizers. What’s next? “Oh let me use some EPO so that I can keep up with my friends”. So true. I don't know how any serious cyclist can defend e-bikes participating in a timed event alongside regular push bikes. BigDL, gemmerbal and MBMtbGirl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncleslow Posted August 18, 2019 Share I don't think E-bikes should be categorized as bicycles. They are motor driven, and the technology is still only in its infancy. Just wait and see - soon E-bikes will make several KiloWatts and not just a few Watts... just look at Tesla. Personally I don't really have a problem, I won't move any more than I normally would, but only an ignorant or naive fool would claim that they are bicycles. E-bikes are motorcycles, and should therefore compete as such. It is unfair for those who genuinely would like to compete on their bicycles, should E-bikes be allowed in the same categories or race results. I find it unreasonable to argue against someone who would like to perform on merit, no matter the level, using the "it's only for fun" argument - that is similar to saying that just because you will never be on the podium you are not allowed to be competitive! CdT85, Patchelicious, buchanan and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted August 18, 2019 Share So true. I don't know how any serious cyclist can defend e-bikes participating in a timed event alongside regular push bikes.No one is advocating for ebikes to participate along with regular bikes.They do however sometimes participate in their own category along the same route. Practically that's the only way it can work scotty and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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