Veebee Posted October 16, 2019 Share I hear you. The shifting of mechanical systems is so well evolved and developed that electronic systems really do become a case wanting the tech for display rights. ^^Spot on. The improvements from ultegra 6800 to 8000 are easily noticable, so can just imagine to further jump in performance to Dura 9100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomik Posted October 16, 2019 Share Guess I'm the third oke that prefers mechanical. But then I also prefer a manual gearbox over PDK... DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted October 16, 2019 Share ^^Spot on. The improvements from ultegra 6800 to 8000 are easily noticable, so can just imagine to further jump in performance to Dura 9100. GCN did a blind test between Dura Ace and 105 and weren't able to spot much difference. But those were the latest incarnations, and they're all pretty good. Admittedly, groupsets were brand new, so wear and tear may show wild variations between them... DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veebee Posted October 16, 2019 Share GCN did a blind test between Dura Ace and 105 and weren't able to spot much difference. But those were the latest incarnations, and they're all pretty good. Admittedly, groupsets were brand new, so wear and tear may show wild variations between them... you think they got paid by Shimano ? cant really believe everything from GCN, hands on, on the road experience, I could feel the difference in upgrades. Started with brand new 105, then brand new ultegra 6800 then brand new 8000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane_Bosch Posted October 16, 2019 Share you think they got paid by Shimano ? cant really believe everything from GCN, If they were being paid by Shimano they would be singing the praises of Dura Ace surely? Edited October 16, 2019 by Duane_Bosch Spinnekop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy Posted October 16, 2019 Share What is the reason you haven't looked at Campagnolo ? Of the Red I have owned and the DA9100 mechanical I own, I much prefer my Record. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted October 16, 2019 Share @Spinnekop - are you riding SRAM Etap?eTap yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veebee Posted October 16, 2019 Share What is the reason you haven't looked at Campagnolo ? Of the Red I have owned and the DA9100 mechanical I own, I much prefer my Record. Doesnt go well with my wallet, and having 2 other Shimano bikes to swap parts from etc if ever needed, I would rather stay away from Campy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted October 16, 2019 Share you think they got paid by Shimano ? cant really believe everything from GCN, hands on, on the road experience, I could feel the difference in upgrades. Started with brand new 105, then brand new ultegra 6800 then brand new 8000. not sure there's any benefit to Shimano in paying anyone with a very large megaphone to tell the world there's no tangible difference between their most expensive gruppo and their best-value one. So no, I don't think there was a payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veebee Posted October 16, 2019 Share not sure there's any benefit to Shimano in paying anyone with a very large megaphone to tell the world there's no tangible difference between their most expensive gruppo and their best-value one. So no, I don't think there was a payment. majority of people are going to go for the cheaper gruppo, so by telling the world that 105 is the "same" as Dura, what do you think would happen...Shimano already have their marketshare for Dura sorted, all the pro teams.This would bump up the sales for 105 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted October 16, 2019 Share Doesnt go well with my wallet, and having 2 other Shimano bikes to swap parts from etc if ever needed, I would rather stay away from CampyThink you just answered your own question!... 9100 !! Veebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veebee Posted October 16, 2019 Share Think you just answered your own question!... 9100 !! yeah now I have, after reading the feedback here seems like shimano is the way to go. Now to wait for a good deal on it, maybe Blackfriday or CWC will drop their prices even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 16, 2019 Share There’s a noticeable difference between ultegra 8000 and Da9100 mechanical groups. DA feels more positive in the rear derailleur shifter. Edited October 16, 2019 by DieselnDust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted October 16, 2019 Share Both classy products The one always makes me turn my head twice at the coffee shop pitstop like a gorgeous woman and it's not the the Dura Eish Spinnekop, Veebee and DieselnDust 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monark Posted October 16, 2019 Share I enjoy both - I too prefer cable shifting. I use Shimano on the training bike (hydro disk Ultegra) and SRAM on my show pony (rim brake Force). Very little difference between Force and Red. Veebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 16, 2019 Share yeah now I have, after reading the feedback here seems like shimano is the way to go. Now to wait for a good deal on it, maybe Blackfriday or CWC will drop their prices even further.Careful.... misery love’s company Veebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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