Jewbacca Posted January 30, 2020 Share Ooooh. Taxing groups of people because they annoy us. I like this idea. Can I please add the following to the list? Vegans on their soap boxesReligious fanaticsPublic pissersTelemarketersJaywalkersThe ridiculousness of my comment matches the ridiculousness of taxing cyclists.I reckon we could also throw in the corrupt politicians.... It would be great if they paid tax too. Adding more laws is great. The Western Cape Judicial cabinet is so bonkers right now they might pass just about anything. Goliath vs the Hlopes is classic. That is a can of worms that, if opened, could get nasty. Then look at the Mkhwebane debacle..... Make more laws! Give these clowns MORE authority over what we can and can't do........ seems like a great idea Duane_Bosch and eddy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatross Posted January 30, 2020 Share Only way I'm paying a cycle tax is if it goes directly into a "Cycle Lane Construction / Maintenance / Security' fund. Shouldn't we be taking more money off motorists to encourage them to commute / take a bus to work instead of punishing the cyclists. First world problems in Holland :https://www.holland-cycling.com/blog/149-bike-tax-controversy-in-amsterdam Eddy Gordo and MORNE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodbadugly Posted January 30, 2020 Share Next thing you know you will be fitted with a fart-o-meter so that the govmint can tax you for toxic emissions BuffsVintageBikes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezer Posted January 30, 2020 Share I do like the idea of a cycling specific k53 type test. At the moment I can go over a stop sign without stopping and when a traffic officer pull me over I can tell him that I am piet pompies and he have to believe me. A basic road use test and issue a type of license card. Now the officer can fine me like a car if I do wrong. The idea is nice, but would obviously never work. MORNE and Skubarra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummibear Posted January 30, 2020 Share YES I'll have no problem paying a road tax because then i won't have to keep to the side of the road.As a payer i will ride where the smoother parts are and where there's no glass and car debris. Duane_Bosch, MORNE , Popit and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokgaga'a mmakubela! Posted January 30, 2020 Share i wont mind paying road tax if the cANCer government will use the money to build (safe) cycle lanes Edited January 30, 2020 by Mokgaga MORNE and gummibear 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefmeister Posted January 30, 2020 Share Ooooh. Taxing groups of people because they annoy us. I like this idea. Can I please add the following to the list? Vegans on their soap boxesReligious fanaticsPublic pissersTelemarketersJaywalkersThe ridiculousness of my comment matches the ridiculousness of taxing cyclists. Not completely ridiculous. It's about time we tax all churches/religious organisations. BigDL, Skubarra and Stretch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted January 30, 2020 Share I'd be happy to pay a tax to ride my bike on the road - if the revenue can be used to keep motorists that kill cyclists firmly in jail. MORNE , Popit, MDJ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnsmith Posted January 30, 2020 Share YES I'll have no problem paying a road tax because then i won't have to keep to the side of the road.As a payer i will ride where the smoother parts are and where there's no glass and car debris.Do you think a simple thing like that will change motorists' bad attitudes towards cyclists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted January 30, 2020 Share Next thing you know you will be fitted with a fart-o-meter so that the govmint can tax you for toxic emissionsthey already tax you on harvesting energy using PV panels.....from the sun. i thought sunburn was for free? i wont put it past them lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velouria Posted January 30, 2020 Share As has already been mentioned, licencing has nothing to do with road wear and tear. That is funded from the general fiscus. According to South African traffic laws, bicycles are regarded as legal vehicles. We have the right to use the road. (And pedestrians have that same right too). Licencing implies privilege - you need to meet a certain requirement to enjoy the right to use your vehicle of choice, be that competence, accountability, compliance etc. To drive my car I need both a driver's licence (competency) as well as a licence for that car (accountability, compliance with local regulations - pollution, road worthiness, rules of the road etc.). So the questions are:Who needs the licence, the rider or the bicycle, or both? What minimum requirements does the rider or the bicycle need to meet?If those minimum requirements are so low (my 5 year old son can ride a bike in the road - does he need a licence?), what is the practical purpose of licences for cyclists or bicycles? This whole topic is an emotive one whereby motorists believe they have an absolute right and that cyclists are infringing on their right, where, in reality, the complete opposite is true. jnsmith and Skubarra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkitech Posted January 30, 2020 Share Yeah - except that (as far as I'm aware) pretty much no "tax" that we pay here gets ring-fenced, it all just goes to the general fiscus and then doled out to departments / provinces / municipalities however Treasury sees fit. My point exactly, why ask for more tax when it will do nothing to improve circumstances revolving around cyclists or road use jnsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted January 30, 2020 Share My point exactly, why ask for more tax when it will do nothing to improve circumstances revolving around cyclists or road use"why ask for more tax when it will do nothing to improve circumstances revolving around dog ownership and the condition in which they are kept" see what i did there...as a reference to what sparked this whole argument this morning on the radio. The sad part is...pretty sure the SPCA or whoever will do inspections like the SABC do for licences...just rock up and fine you and force you on the spot to get a licence or have your crap confiscated. or they'll make your vet decline service if your animal has no licence. - true story...thats how i took ownership of a tv licence when I was a student. Edited January 30, 2020 by morneS555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieV Posted January 30, 2020 Share Should cyclist pay road tax: No Should there be a cycling specific k53 type test: No I pass many less fortunate cyclists daily with no other means of transport - to burden them with either tests or licenses/taxes is ridiculous. (not to even mention the kind of abuse they will suffer from SA officials) jnsmith, Stretch and MDJ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat Posted January 30, 2020 Share Imagine the stereotypical entitled cyclist riding 2 or 3 abreast on a busy road pulling zap signs and swearing at the motorists hooting at them... ...but now with a licence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 30, 2020 Share they already tax you on harvesting energy using PV panels.....from the sun. i thought sunburn was for free? i wont put it past them loler, no they don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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