At last a quality affordable floor pump ( pomp) that does it all

[The Ouzo]

39 minutes ago, MORNE said:

Never had an issue seating tyres with a floor pump. Soapy water/cloth, remove valve core, pump to 40psi, wait for the 3 or 4 pops as you go, remove, add sealant, add valve core, pump. Done. Without fail.

I would love to challenge you with my rim/tyre combination

[MORNE]

4 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

I would love to challenge you with my rim/tyre combination

If they don't go up first try it’s a rim tape issue. Ive had those too…when the centre channel is deep and the tyre sits in there. More tape usually solves this….or even using a tube to pop one side on first.

Edited July 29 by MORNE

[MajG]

30 minutes ago, ChrisF said:

 

Yes it works.

 

BUT ... now it comes down to your fittings and tubing ....

 

There is enough pressure, and enough volume in the tank.  The trick is to get it into the tyre quick enough.

 

I ended up cutting off the valve connector, and just pushing the tube directly over the valve stem.

 

 

TIP - set the pressure regulator down to 3 or maximum 3,5 bar.  Thus less chance of bursting a tyre or rim.

 

PS - After many years of use I replaced this compressor with one the new oil-less units .... much more noise .... the compressor delivers less air flow, not an issue for pumping tyres, but soon becomes a pain using compressed air to dry the chain and other components.  My next purchase will be another of these units.

The oil less attracts me, requires less maintenance. 

However am aware still needs to be serviced annually as the usage hours will definitely not be even 100hours annually. 

[Jensie]

16 hours ago, The Ouzo said:

I would love to challenge you with my rim/tyre combination

Usually one of my 2 tires don't want to seat with the pump, Then I take the wheel to the local garage and inflate there with a presta to shrader adapter that goes into the garage nozzle. With the core removed, sometimes it takes a few tries but get it done.

[The Ouzo]

9 minutes ago, Jensie said:

Usually one of my 2 tires don't want to seat with the pump, Then I take the wheel to the local garage and inflate there with a presta to shrader adapter that goes into the garage nozzle. With the core removed, sometimes it takes a few tries but get it done.

I can never get mine to seat with my floor pump, always have to go to the garage.

Pretty sure its the wheel tyre combination.

 

The other problem I have is that as soon as I let all the air out (like when I need to topup with sealant) the bead pulls away from the rim, so even topping up sealant requires a trip to the garage.

[Thomo]

1 hour ago, The Ouzo said:

I can never get mine to seat with my floor pump, always have to go to the garage.

Pretty sure its the wheel tyre combination.

 

The other problem I have is that as soon as I let all the air out (like when I need to topup with sealant) the bead pulls away from the rim, so even topping up sealant requires a trip to the garage.

Suspect most comments and successes relate to MTB tyres.

From some of your other posts I'm thinking you're on road tubeless.?

Same, but different  ... LOL 

[Thomo]

19 hours ago, Robbie Stewart said:

I had have no problems seating a tyre with one of these. And I ride Maxxis 2.40" on DD / DH casing rubber. I don't own a compressor and I seat the tyre with a cannister, deflate the tyre to add sealant and then pump it with the trusty floor pump. Works every time.

I have a floor pump with tubeless tank.

Sometimes I get lucky, other times I'm using one of these too. 🙈

PS: road tubeless.

[dave303e]

On 7/29/2024 at 11:28 AM, MajG said:

something like this ?, 109l/min

I have this exact compressor. It will definitely seat tubeless tyres. I have even seated a few motorbike tyres as well. 

21 hours ago, ChrisF said:

 

Yes it works.

 

BUT ... now it comes down to your fittings and tubing ....

 

There is enough pressure, and enough volume in the tank.  The trick is to get it into the tyre quick enough.

 

I ended up cutting off the valve connector, and just pushing the tube directly over the valve stem.

 

 

TIP - set the pressure regulator down to 3 or maximum 3,5 bar.  Thus less chance of bursting a tyre or rim.

 

PS - After many years of use I replaced this compressor with one the new oil-less units .... much more noise .... the compressor delivers less air flow, not an issue for pumping tyres, but soon becomes a pain using compressed air to dry the chain and other components.  My next purchase will be another of these units.

Check the max pressure your tyre can handle and don't go above it. trust me it is not worth it going over that pressure by accident.

[mazambaan]

16 hours ago, dave303e said:

I have this exact compressor. It will definitely seat tubeless tyres. I have even seated a few motorbike tyres as well. 

Check the max pressure your tyre can handle and don't go above it. trust me it is not worth it going over that pressure by accident.

True this and I (have to), with a similar machine, connect the compressor hose with a small hose clip direct to the valve with core removed so when it pops on it gets to high pressure very quickly.  Yet to try the little Makita battery tyre pumper.

[BaGearA]

21 hours ago, The Ouzo said:

I can never get mine to seat with my floor pump, always have to go to the garage.

Pretty sure its the wheel tyre combination.

 

The other problem I have is that as soon as I let all the air out (like when I need to topup with sealant) the bead pulls away from the rim, so even topping up sealant requires a trip to the garage.

Next time just try one extra layer of rim tape. Assuming all other variables are the same 

 

 

Flow rate can always be made up with good rim prep.

[Robbie Stewart]

On 7/29/2024 at 4:44 PM, MORNE said:

Never had an issue seating tyres with a floor pump. Soapy water/cloth, remove valve core, pump to 40psi, wait for the 3 or 4 pops as you go, remove, add sealant, add valve core, pump. Done. Without fail.

Hoe nou? What is this magic you speak of?

 

[117]

5 minutes ago, Robbie Stewart said:

Hoe nou? What is this magic you speak of?

 

I do the same. Once the tyre is on the rim and prepped and you're ready to give it a good pomp, I take a sponge with dishwashing liquid and water mix (just a little dishwashing liquid) and use it as lube between the bead and the rim (I coat the entire way around). 

Use the steps as Morne says and it pops on quite easily. I do this for mtb tyres

[Robbie Stewart]

1 hour ago, 117 said:

I do the same. Once the tyre is on the rim and prepped and you're ready to give it a good pomp, I take a sponge with dishwashing liquid and water mix (just a little dishwashing liquid) and use it as lube between the bead and the rim (I coat the entire way around). 

Use the steps as Morne says and it pops on quite easily. I do this for mtb tyres

thanks, I will give it a go and see later this arvie. I have a new wheelset incoming.

 

[MORNE]

7 hours ago, Robbie Stewart said:

Hoe nou? What is this magic you speak of?

 

As mentioned, you want to lube the interface between the rim and tyre so it slips on way way easier, but it also ensures that the tyre seats properly all the way around the bead. 
 

Just a soapy sunlight liquid cloth/sponge. No need to go overboard, just soapy enough that you can feel it on your hands when wiping.
 

As mentioned by @117, wipe the rim, wipe the bead all the way around and go about your business as usual. Once i get it on the rim (before inflating/seating) i usually wipe the rim/bead another time depending on how hard I fought the tyre while installing.

added bonus: the soap shows where you might be leaking still. It makes bubbles. 

Edited July 31 by MORNE

[PhilipV]

On 7/29/2024 at 5:47 PM, MajG said:

The oil less attracts me, requires less maintenance. 

However am aware still needs to be serviced annually as the usage hours will definitely not be even 100hours annually. 

Topping up oil in the compressor is hardly a schlepp. Oil is cheap and readily available. Or outsource it if it’s not your cup of tea. 

I won’t take an oil-less compressor over a bigger, faster machine that uses oil. 
 

When you have a proper compressor in the garage, you use it for a lot more than just bicycles. 

20 hours ago, Robbie Stewart said:

thanks, I will give it a go and see later this arvie. I have a new wheelset incoming.

 

Rapide? 
Soap and water was crucial to how we fit nonTL tyres to random rims back in the Stone Age. 
modern rims and tyres have made it so much easier.

[mazambaan]

9 minutes ago, PhilipV said:

Topping up oil in the compressor is hardly a schlepp. Oil is cheap and readily available. Or outsource it if it’s not your cup of tea. 

I won’t take an oil-less compressor over a bigger, faster machine that uses oil. 
 

When you have a proper compressor in the garage, you use it for a lot more than just bicycles. 

Rapide? 
Soap and water was crucial to how we fit nonTL tyres to random rims back in the Stone Age. 
modern rims and tyres have made it so much easier.

and you can add a ratchet type strap around the tyre to force the bead out towards its home on the rim. Don't tell Farmer Glen but the straps used on the Sani2c boxes work for this.