Deed hubs not engaging

[droo]

40 minutes ago, Kuys said:

Keep in mind that ring transfer ALL the torque you put in into the wheel. Any type of glue or Loctite would keep it from falling out, but I doubt it will keep it from rotating (ie transfer the torque). If it does, it probably wont do it for very long and may fail when you least want it to. 

I would get an opinion from a good bike mechanic (it is difficult to give advice without seeing the part first hand) and/or chat to Pyga (Deed are their component brand). 

 

 

Yeah, I reckon Loctite is going to do exactly nothing aside from make a dent in your wallet. Epoxy should work if you can get the drive ring out and prep the mating surfaces properly though.

[DieselnDust]

Even epoxy might not be enough.

My course of action would be a new hub

[MajG]

I took the suggestion to my lbs and they advised the same, epoxy will work but they doubt it will last long.

So I am on the hunt for a new hub, wont risk 2nd hand just incase same crap pops up again.

3 weeks ago, snapped rear derailleur,  now a broken hub. ???? 

The hobby that loves our wallet as much as we love the hobby ????????

[Mars1967]

It would be interesting to know what keeps that ring from rotating. 

[porqui]

10 minutes ago, Mars1967 said:

It would be interesting to know what keeps that ring from rotating. 

Try and take it out carefully.

You never know you may be able to do something.

Post picture.

(I wonder if there are some keys between the ring and the hub)

Edited August 11, 2021 by porqui

[BaGearA]

18 minutes ago, Mars1967 said:

It would be interesting to know what keeps that ring from rotating. 

Being threaded in or sliding into slots (kinda like old school cassettes onto splined freehubs )

 

To save yourself in the long run go with HOPE or DT Swiss for your new hub 

[MajG]

2 hours ago, BaGearA said:

Being threaded in or sliding into slots (kinda like old school cassettes onto splined freehubs )

 

To save yourself in the long run go with HOPE or DT Swiss for your new hub 

I see getstoked having sale on dtswiss,  so I shall be heading that route. 

Just doing some research 

[PhilipV]

13 hours ago, MajG said:

I took the suggestion to my lbs and they advised the same, epoxy will work but they doubt it will last long.

So I am on the hunt for a new hub, wont risk 2nd hand just incase same crap pops up again.

3 weeks ago, snapped rear derailleur,  now a broken hub. ???? 

The hobby that loves our wallet as much as we love the hobby ????????

How old is the wheel? Contact Pyga first and ask if there is a warranty on it?

 

 

[droo]

16 hours ago, Mars1967 said:

It would be interesting to know what keeps that ring from rotating. 

It's threaded in, and in this case the thread has stripped. Seen it happen quite often.

23 hours ago, DieselnDust said:

Even epoxy might not be enough.

My course of action would be a new hub

I'd try the repair first out of curiosity if it were my hub, but I wouldn't expect it to last long. But then I'm inclined to use things well beyond their intended lifespan.

 

If it were for a client I'd bin it, not worth the comeback when it pops.

[stefmeister]

16 minutes ago, droo said:

It's threaded in, and in this case the thread has stripped. Seen it happen quite often.

I'd try the repair first out of curiosity if it were my hub, but I wouldn't expect it to last long. But then I'm inclined to use things well beyond their intended lifespan.

 

If it were for a client I'd bin it, not worth the comeback when it pops.

Out of curiosity, yeah I'd definitely go for the epoxy route. You'd be surprised how strong an epoxied joint can hold sometimes. Just clean up all the mating surfaces properly.  A nice 20% climb will tell you if it's going to last or not.

[Headshot]

Check the warranty. That's a manufacturing defect/quality issue, not normal wear and tear. 

[DieselnDust]

20 minutes ago, Headshot said:

Check the warranty. That's a manufacturing defect/quality issue, not normal wear and tear. 

Could also be a service issue but definitely worth the warranty route. They can also say no and first prize is a surprise present in the mail

[MudLark]

1 hour ago, droo said:

It's threaded in, and in this case the thread has stripped. Seen it happen quite often.

I'd try the repair first out of curiosity if it were my hub, but I wouldn't expect it to last long. But then I'm inclined to use things well beyond their intended lifespan.

I wonder why the thread strips? Installation error or bad design?

As for the 354k km, that's really not all that much by modern standards. Just about properly run in now. ????

[David Marshall]

I also would not recommend the epoxy/Loctite fix.  As mentioned above it will not stand the rotational torque.  The best way to remove a bearing or BB that has been "fixed" in with either is to carefully cut a slot or two and then to peel it out in a rotational manner.

[MajG]

I have gone the warranty route, to check with them.

If not successful then will attempt the epoxy root

 

If that fails epoxy fails, potentially 50/50 but I'm doing it for the greater hubs interest. 

Then meantime scout around for hub deals

[Renier]

Hi, just stumbled across this thread. Was there any feedback on the warranty claim?