JacquesJ Posted February 6, 2023 Share 9 hours ago, Titan Racing Bikes said: 38T Cliff, our head of design weighing in: "But I wouldn't recommend it - personally I think it ruins the anti squat, 36T is better." Great, thanks for the feedback. Now that I know my bike can handle 38T I dont have an excuse/reason for running something smaller any more. I guess I have be honest and admit that its my legs that can't do 38T... Wannabe and Titan Racing Bikes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babse Posted February 6, 2023 Share Very interestingly okes are riding 38T... Not fortunate to have any climbs around 🤨 Mattman, Fred van Vlaanderen, Jbr and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoG Posted February 6, 2023 Share 11 hours ago, Scott roy said: Thanks a lot ,i’ll be running a 36 oval so that’s fine I have a 36 and 38 for both of my bikes. When riding flat & fast I prefer the 38 but mostly use the 36 at the moment since I'm trying to do more climbing. dasilvarsa and Titan Racing Bikes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott roy Posted February 6, 2023 Share 12 minutes ago, TheoG said: I have a 36 and 38 for both of my bikes. When riding flat & fast I prefer the 38 but mostly use the 36 at the moment since I'm trying to do more climbing. how does the 38 feel? I've been running 36 ovals for quite a while now and I regularly find myself wanting a bit more but a 38 is quite a chainring to run as specially since there is no such thing as flats near me. Titan Racing Bikes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoG Posted February 6, 2023 Share 14 minutes ago, Scott roy said: how does the 38 feel? I've been running 36 ovals for quite a while now and I regularly find myself wanting a bit more but a 38 is quite a chainring to run as specially since there is no such thing as flats near me. I like it BUT, it only add a little to your top speed with the detriment that in granny up a steep incline you keep wishing you were rather on a 36 ..... 🤪 If you are strong, light and fit though 38 might be the thing for you. When I am on goal weight about 15kg lower than now, I would seriously consider running 38 most of the time. Titan Racing Bikes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott roy Posted February 6, 2023 Share 1 minute ago, TheoG said: I like it BUT, it only add a little to your top speed with the detriment that in granny up a steep incline you keep wishing you were rather on a 36 ..... 🤪 If you are strong, light and fit though 38 might be the thing for you. When I am on goal weight about 15kg lower than now, I would seriously consider running 38 most of the time. well I like the idea of that too because I think I would get more life out of my cassettes since the wear is normally concentrated on the lower cogs and the largest two cogs typically go unused. I'm looking forward to seeing how the new bike goes with a 36 and maybe a 38 in the future though Titan Racing Bikes and TheoG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave303e Posted February 6, 2023 Share 2 hours ago, babse said: Very interestingly okes are riding 38T... Not fortunate to have any climbs around 🤨 honestly, I did a 160km ride the other day which came to within 5km of our farm and 36 was too short in terms of gearing. Think we had 1700m gain in 160km. It's so flat here you can watch the dog run away from home for 3 days... Max Headroom, Meezo and Fred van Vlaanderen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babse Posted February 6, 2023 Share 5 minutes ago, dave303e said: honestly, I did a 160km ride the other day which came to within 5km of our farm and 36 was too short in terms of gearing. Think we had 1700m gain in 160km. It's so flat here you can watch the dog run away from home for 3 days... that's still a fair bit of ascend regardless of the distance rolling up and around table mountain, i wouldnt even think of a 38T....or i just need to level up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
117 Posted February 6, 2023 Share 1 hour ago, Scott roy said: well I like the idea of that too because I think I would get more life out of my cassettes since the wear is normally concentrated on the lower cogs and the largest two cogs typically go unused. I'm looking forward to seeing how the new bike goes with a 36 and maybe a 38 in the future though A 38 will make you hurt. Its hard enough to use a 38 even on the flats I have a 38t 104bcd (round) if you want to test it, and a stupid ass single track out back if you want to kill yourself on the ups for the test ride. Unless you're a racing snake like the pro's - then you'll be fine And @TheoG - you should put a 34 or even a 32t on, come ride the masts again and you'll be pleasantly surprised as to how much tech stuff you can actually do - I'm convinced its over gearing that puts you off babse and TheoG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoG Posted February 6, 2023 Share 4 minutes ago, 117 said: A 38 will make you hurt. Its hard enough to use a 38 even on the flats I have a 38t 104bcd (round) if you want to test it, and a stupid ass single track out back if you want to kill yourself on the ups for the test ride. Unless you're a racing snake like the pro's - then you'll be fine And @TheoG - you should put a 34 or even a 32t on, come ride the masts again and you'll be pleasantly surprised as to how much tech stuff you can actually do - I'm convinced its over gearing that puts you off You might be right ... will give it a shot. I did SBR on the past weekend (57km, 1200m for those of you that don't know), never felt out of my depth on a 36T, but that's tar road, climbing on the tech stuff, completely different animal 🤪. Previous time I did it with a 38T, that was not fun at all. Edited February 6, 2023 by TheoG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave303e Posted February 6, 2023 Share 25 minutes ago, babse said: that's still a fair bit of ascend regardless of the distance rolling up and around table mountain, i wouldnt even think of a 38T....or i just need to level up. ya like I said it is flat here. I have a32,34 and 36 to rotate through. Just pick and choose depending on where I ride. But a 38 would be manageable for majority of my riding in and around gp and home. TheoG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted February 6, 2023 Share On 2/4/2023 at 4:32 PM, ajnkzn said: If you go 6mm offset chainring it’ll probably work with a 38. Most modern MTB;s are limited to about a 36T chainring when using a 3mm offset chainring. A 0mm offset chianring will definitely allow for a 38T to fit maybe even a 40T but there will be a compromise on drivetrain component life if the 50/51/52t sprocket is used often. There may also be issues of chain dropping down the cassette if you have to back pedal for any reason. PS: A 36T oval is not a 38T even if its round. the gearing is quite a bit taller, A 36T oval is the same gearing as a 36round for 360degrees of the crank revolution..... TheoG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattman Posted March 10, 2023 Share On 2/4/2023 at 4:53 AM, Jacques Joubert WC said: I have the Cypher Pro and was told by Titan it can go to 36. 38 apparantly wont fit. Suspect it will be the same for the Ultimate. @Jacques Joubert WC did you progress with new chainrings on your Carbon Pro? Assuming 120mm i.e. not the RS? I was about to pull the trigger on the Carbon Pro size XL and when asking the bike shop to put on a 36T for me instead of the standard 32T, I was told that their mechanic advised it can’t cater for anything larger than 34!? I find this hard to believe as that would be a serious limitation on the bike given how it is marketed. Anyone else with information on this please weigh in 🙏🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquesJ Posted March 10, 2023 Share 23 minutes ago, Mattman said: @Jacques Joubert WC did you progress with new chainrings on your Carbon Pro? Assuming 120mm i.e. not the RS? I was about to pull the trigger on the Carbon Pro size XL and when asking the bike shop to put on a 36T for me instead of the standard 32T, I was told that their mechanic advised it can’t cater for anything larger than 34!? I find this hard to believe as that would be a serious limitation on the bike given how it is marketed. Anyone else with information on this please weigh in 🙏🏻 Well, I went 34 first, since my next races had some steep stuff (Tankwa Trek), plus the chain that came with the new bike would be too short for a 36. The plan is to go 36 once I need to replace the groupset in a year or so, since I can then match the replacement chain to the 36...and still have a 34 for those steep rides. Its the 120mm, yes Sorry I cant help more at this stage Edited March 10, 2023 by Jacques Joubert WC Mattman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVERDRIVE Posted March 12, 2023 Share @Titan Racing Bikes surely can comment on this Mattman and Titan Racing Bikes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Racing Bikes Posted March 13, 2023 Share On 3/10/2023 at 5:44 PM, Jacques Joubert WC said: Well, I went 34 first, since my next races had some steep stuff (Tankwa Trek), plus the chain that came with the new bike would be too short for a 36. The plan is to go 36 once I need to replace the groupset in a year or so, since I can then match the replacement chain to the 36...and still have a 34 for those steep rides. Its the 120mm, yes Sorry I cant help more at this stage 38T is the maximum. Cliff, our head of design weighing in: "But I wouldn't recommend it - personally I think it ruins the anti-squat, 36T is better." DieselnDust and Mattman 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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