The ARGUS 2025 Thread (AKA CTCT)

[ChrisF]

30 minutes ago, Bro Derek said:

So what are the best races to do between now and next year in order to get ones seeding better?

Cape Town based

 

Durby Dash in October

 

DC ... could be said it is in a different class to the 100km rides...

 

Winelands in January

 

99er early February

 

Tour de PPA is your last chance.

[Ed345]

1B

61kg

245w NP

Edinburg 1.72km 5.5% │ 305w 4:38

Smits last 1.65km 5.5% │ 257w 4:33

Little Chappies 1.42km 4.1% │ 295w 3:23

Big Chappies 1.72km 4.8% │ 295w 4:41

Small Suikerbossie 0.62km 4.7% │ 298w 1:28

Big Suikerbossie 1.86km 6.7% │ 268w 5:52

[JohanDiv]

@Tiny K we wanna see your stats as well.. must be 375W NP, right?

[Ncayi]

My Stats in 1A at 91.5 kgs. NP for race 259w

Edinburg 1.72km 5.5% │ 368w 4:22

Smits last 1.65km 5.5% │ 323w 4:24

Little Chappies 1.42km 4.1% │ 301w 3:34

Big Chappies 1.72km 4.8% │ 358w 4:4

Big Suikerbossie 1.86km 6.7% │ 352w 6:03

[Pure Savage]

30 minutes ago, bleedToWin said:

Elite numbers my man 💪

Looking at some of the "elite" riders numbers on Sunday, I could have ridden there... some not making a sub 3. (Excluding those that crashed) 

There is video of okes dropped on hospital bend...

[Me rida my bicycle]

We are planning next year's ride already. Some changes to the buggy for a little less wind resistance without compromising the safety for the little warrior inside.

This will be on me so I'm thinking to "auction" off the bar used on the buggy this year and use those funds to improve it for next year. Glad I added it last minute because it made it so much easier to push the buggy. 

We want to get closer to the Ebike powered/supported buggies. 😁

 

[Skubarra]

44 minutes ago, HdB said:

I was probably not too far from you at the start

But I lost about two minutes from Chapmans, 2:45:41, still a PB by about 5 minutes.

You outsprinted me by 1 second, I should work on my finishing....

[DieselnDust]

19 minutes ago, Bro Derek said:

Aren't there PPA or CSA series that happen too? Cat1 to Cat4 etc?

I've seen the chatter but not sure which is which is which

 

PPA considers their races more elite than your CSA license so no, the WP road league races won’t count unless you phone a friend 

Edited 5 hours ago by DieselnDust

[JohanDiv]

11 minutes ago, Bro Derek said:

Aren't there PPA or CSA series that happen too? Cat1 to Cat4 etc?

I've seen the chatter but not sure which is which is which

 

WP Cycling has league races, but they don't count towards PPA seeding as far as I know. That cat racing is also 'n bietjietjie warmer than the PPA races!

As mentioned above, PPA One Tonner, Winelands, 99er and Tour de PPA are your best bet to help you increase your seeding. If you have a MTB, try and do Karoo to Coast in September.. that should give you a decent seeding for One Tonner, and from there you should move up a few batches with each race if you put in the training.

[Gr3mlin131]

1 minute ago, JohanDiv said:

WP Cycling has league races, but they don't count towards PPA seeding as far as I know. That cat racing is also 'n bietjietjie warmer than the PPA races!

As mentioned above, PPA One Tonner, Winelands, 99er and Tour de PPA are your best bet to help you increase your seeding. If you have a MTB, try and do Karoo to Coast in September.. that should give you a decent seeding for One Tonner, and from there you should move up a few batches with each race if you put in the training.

And what are the options for the people outside the republic of the Western Cape? The official seeding list is looking a bit thin for the rest of the country

[Pure Savage]

Just now, Gr3mlin131 said:

And what are the options for the people outside the republic of the Western Cape? The official seeding list is looking a bit thin for the rest of the country

https://www.property24.com/houses-for-sale/cape-town/western-cape/432?sp=eszf%3d500%26bd%3d3 

[Bro Derek]

2 minutes ago, JohanDiv said:

WP Cycling has league races, but they don't count towards PPA seeding as far as I know. That cat racing is also 'n bietjietjie warmer than the PPA races!

As mentioned above, PPA One Tonner, Winelands, 99er and Tour de PPA are your best bet to help you increase your seeding. If you have a MTB, try and do Karoo to Coast in September.. that should give you a decent seeding for One Tonner, and from there you should move up a few batches with each race if you put in the training.

That is good advice, thank you Johan

I have a road bike and I have 'some' experience racing bikes, but just very out of the loop as to which races focus on in order to jump a group or 7

Thank you all for your input

[DieselnDust]

4 minutes ago, JohanDiv said:

WP Cycling has league races, but they don't count towards PPA seeding as far as I know. That cat racing is also 'n bietjietjie warmer than the PPA races!

As mentioned above, PPA One Tonner, Winelands, 99er and Tour de PPA are your best bet to help you increase your seeding. If you have a MTB, try and do Karoo to Coast in September.. that should give you a decent seeding for One Tonner, and from there you should move up a few batches with each race if you put in the training.

This is a good strategy to game the system. If you have a gravel bike , gravel races also give you a better beta and that will bump your seeding.

[ChrisF]

5 minutes ago, JohanDiv said:

WP Cycling has league races, but they don't count towards PPA seeding as far as I know. That cat racing is also 'n bietjietjie warmer than the PPA races!

As mentioned above, PPA One Tonner, Winelands, 99er and Tour de PPA are your best bet to help you increase your seeding. If you have a MTB, try and do Karoo to Coast in September.. that should give you a decent seeding for One Tonner, and from there you should move up a few batches with each race if you put in the training.

 

For MTB, worth checking if Vines & Views are still a CTCT seeding event.

[ChrisF]

4 minutes ago, Gr3mlin131 said:

And what are the options for the people outside the republic of the Western Cape? The official seeding list is looking a bit thin for the rest of the country

 

Less and less opportunities for upcountry riders to get seeding races.

[andydude]

54 minutes ago, Bro Derek said:

So what are the best races to do between now and next year in order to get ones seeding better?

Cape Town based

There's a few around Sep/Oct/Nov and then again Feb.

Most difficult/highest beta includes PPA One Tonner, Double Century. And races like Tour de PPA and Durbie Dash.