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  1. Yes to training one of my athletes, we have just started with a running program as I want to get him down to a sub 1:40hr, 21km by the time we start properly. His goal for IMSA is a sub 10hr, so we will start full on training 6 months out with a 3 month build and 3 month race prep. As for November, doubt that will happen. Quite a few holding out for races overseas. I am down for Weymouth 70.3 at the end of September, but is looking dubious that it will happen, so still training running and cycling for that race and hoping gyms will open before end of July so at least can get some swimming!
  2. In the UK I think you can get insurance through British Triathlon for event cancellation, but why should you have to take on that extra cost? Thought I saw somewhere a while back there was a group of athletes Thailand/Philippines (somewhere like that) who were also taking IM to court to get a refund for a late cancelled event. I guess IM will argue that they do offer % of the entrance fee back depending how long before the event you request it, else the option to defer, which many seem to do.
  3. @ICM the wedding I was meant to be going to the week before Weymouth has just been postponed until April 2021 due to COVID, so now doing Weymouth is up in the air as it was meant to be a combined, go to the wedding and the following weekend race. I will wait and see first what IM have to say about the event going ahead, they say will notify 50 days before, which is the end of July. Then will decide whether to do or defer it (probably the latter). With Leicester going into lockdown and likelihood of more areas going the same way as you open the economy fully this weekend, the event may not take place. On a side note, I had already entered the new IM70.3 Venice on 02 May 2021 (through AWA priority), and then get this email yesterday about the wedding re-arrangement which just so happens to now be the week before Venice lol
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  5. shaper

    Jock 2020

    Event no longer owned by ASG. Scroll down to my post #38 https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/181989-asg-are-they-still-operational/page-3 Event was postponed and deferred a long time ago, will hopefully happen in 2021
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  7. I think have seen many place diving weights on the opposite leg to balance out the weight of the flywheei, so that it can be centred. Thanks for the feedback
  8. Yes, think that was it. What's it like, build quality and does it work?
  9. I saw some advertised in the classifieds the other day?
  10. We all here to learn, even though have been using stryd for 2 years am still learning. In fact some question from this discussions have also got me thinking and researching more. All I can point to is to on hand experience of training and racing with one. It has improved my running and pacing, I know that if I run at a certain power I will be within probably a minute of so of my target finish time irrespective of the topography and as have pointed out in the 2 examples of CPT marathon and Dubai70.3, I have some left in the tank to push and finish strongly rather than stagger over the line
  11. Because I don't know all the answers, If i did I would have. It is something B-Rad raised with regard to a course that goes from A to B and is uphill mostly, it also leaves unanswered questions, ..... perhaps less fatigue when running in the red zone to set world records on flats than hills, can get into better rhythm and have momentum on flatter courses as changing to hills will affect this, same as a twisty turning course, psychologically it is easier?.... pick one, none or anything else.. am sure you have your thoughts. I know that if I run Pirates 21km over Northcliff at 230w and also run Irene Village 21km at 230w which is flat, I finish pretty much in similar times and have done so. Same as if I set our on a LSD training run at 200w which is equivalent to around 6mins/km. Training at 200w over whatever distance whether flat or hilly, my garmin post run will give me my average pace close to 6mins/km.... the only difference being that with running on power i will slow down on going up the hills and not burn matches, whereas if I ran on pace, I would burn matches keeping to a 6min/km pace up hills. As for the terminology of whether power is correct, take it up with the likes of stryd, garmin, polar and others. At the end of the day it is another metric to use with regard to pacing and racing and for now they call it power, being an indication of the force used when running, perhaps that will change as things develop in the market.
  12. Sorry to hear G, in our thoughts, you and your family!
  13. Most runs/races are out/around and back from A to A, so generally cancel each other out with ups and downs, I have done Pirates (over Northcliff) and Irene (flat) picking a similar training power with target finish time in mind and have finished both races in similar times. Where the route is from A to B and all up hill, then adjustment will have to be made with regard to pacing being your power. As I use the stryd app it tells me for race calculation and seems to work. But have to agree it has me thinking too. I guess there will always be outlier exceptions. Here how stryd calculates https://blog.stryd.com/2020/01/10/how-to-calculate-your-race-time-from-your-target-power/
  14. I have tried to explain it as best I can, you can disagree, but having run with power for over 2 years, I can tell you it works, Andy will also say the same. We do not run to pace but power, pace varies. Constant power is basically trying to flatten the course. You can agree to disagree. Why do you think RD Murray (triathlete) is now running to power and smashing 5km records? Go look at his IG and Strava and you will see his runs have power recorded. IIRC the recent 5km PB, his power was over 400w
  15. When using Golden Cheetah, there will be a chart for power curve for cycling, Just download another chart power curve for cycling, then on this chart use the filter function and change it to running only and rename it. Now with power being used for both cycling and running, you will have to add a filter to the original cycling chart for cycling only. Then you will have 2 independent Power Distribution charts and each with calculate your Critical Power
  16. For TrainingPeaks, you have to buy WKO5 if you want the power curve, it will record the info but only for pulling through to WKO5 which is their analysis software. Strava does not record running power, however, there are rumours that they are about to at some point soon. If they do, then with the help of David at Intervals.icu, we might be able to get a running power distribution curve. Currently if you want that power curve, then you either going to have to generate it via a spreadsheet and graphs or use Golden Cheetah
  17. Unless you use software to generate your power distribution curve, same as you do in cycling, so that you know exactly what power you can generate and for how long. The simplest which will give you a ball park idea is to reverse "engineer" your power numbers. For the first 6-8 weeks, you should totally ignore the power numbers when you run as they mean nothing to you as you have no reference points yet. For these 6-8 weeks, just run and record the power data. Post run, look at the numbers and start writing down and recording the information. For a certain power you will run at a certain pace, and the opposite is true. So create 2 columns, one for pace and one for power. Your pace column will be from say 7min/km up to 4 mins/km (or whatever the fastest sprint you can do). Then go run, do 30s sprints, do 1 min sprints, 4-5min VO2max intervals, 20 min threshold runs, 30 min time trials, long runs, recovery runs. After you run, record your average pace and slot it in between your 7 and 4 min/km, see what your average power was for that run and write it down next to the pace. Zoom in on your VO2max intervals or sprints, write down the average pace and corresponding average power. In this way you start to build the 2 columns with Average Pace v Average power for many iterations of pace between your upper and lower extremes. Some runs you will have the same average power, you can then use this as a check to see if this runs power is similar to previous runs. If so then you know the data is becoming reliable. If it's a run with an average pace you have not done before, then you slot it in. i.e you had done runs at 5:15 and 5:25 mins/km and recorded the power, this run is at 5:21 mins/km, so you can slot the pace and power numbers between the 2. Eventually you will have a whole column of different paces between 4 and 7 mins/km and a corresponding column of different power numbers. Finally go do a lactate threshold test, will give you your lactate pace as well as your critical power. Now with all this data you will be able to set your zones for creating your workouts and plans https://www.velopress.com/jim-vances-running-power-zones/ You can also start testing your data. Do a race, go for a run, decide before what your goal pace will be. Look at your table of pace v power you have built up and see what the corresponding power will be for the pace you want to run at. Then go run at that power, ignoring pace and see how you do and whether the numbers work. They should do if you have been methodical. Same with races, you want to target a 1:50hr 21km, your pace will be 5:42min/km, look up in your table what the power for that pace is. Then run the 21km at that power, run on power and see how close to your target time is. Periodic do lactate test, recalculate your Critical Power (same as you do for cycling FTP), redo your zones. Rinse and repeat, to get faster, but running to power rather than to pace.
  18. How close to your Critical Power were you with 230w? If close you will struggle to get to it on a downhill. I suspect 230w even on the flat you will be up around threshold or higher. You need to know your Critical Power (Running FTP), then in the same way as for cycling you calculate your power zones so that you run in your proper zones when training and doing workouts, especially intervals. So you do not just pick a power number then try to run to it and bonk or fail because it is not realistic. A good read if you can find locally is by Jim Vance-Run with power https://www.amazon.com/Run-Power-Complete-Meters-Running/dp/1937715434
  19. Go look at my CPT power chart in an earlier post. Power is pretty constant whether course is flat or hilly, only thing that changes is pace with hill. To give you a simple example If totally flat your run at 200w which is equivalent to 1hr for 10km. Your average for the run is 6min/km. We have built a spreadsheet during training, so know what power equates to what pace. If you run a course which is one hill 5kms up and 5kms back down, you run up at 200w being at a pace of say 6:30min/km (as you have to run slower to stay at 200w as working against the slope and gravity). Coming back down with the use of gravity and slope it easy running downhill so you have to run faster at now 5:30min/km to maintain the 200w. Net result 6:30min/km on way up, 5:30min/km on way down, Average pace for the run 6mins/km finish in 1 hour on a 10km hilly course. You still raced both courses at 200w power output and had the same finish time even though one was a hill and not flat.
  20. Been using it for about 6 weeks, really buggy at first but the latest 3.6 snap builds where they fix bugs as reported is much better and works well. Python also embedded, so you do not have to load it separately.
  21. Definitely comes with experience and trusting your numbers. Here my run from Dubai 70.3 earlier this year. Would love to be a racing snake at sub 4min/km but at 55yo, the body and mind wants, but alas the legs don't lol The first 2kms I had to reign myself in to slow down to target power, which meant that the last 5kms, I could run on adrenaline, what's left in the tank and know it's the finish and push it hard across the line rather than fade and stagger across! The drops in power are at the aid stations to grab water, sponges etc (extremely hot day).
  22. I think where running to power helps, you do enough runs, flat, hilly, undulating, irrespective, you know if you run at a target power you will finish in that time. Knowing this, you stick to your own game plan and ignore those around you and especially the hype at the start. Whether it is a stand alone race like this or at the back end of a triathlon, I know what pacing on power for that race I can achieve, stick to it and generally achieve it if not better. Often off the bike in a triathlon is when I generally have to slow down to target power for the run, else will cook it.
  23. 10km - Northgate (hilly) 21km - Robor Scafolding (hilly) 42km - CPT (flatish) Here my CPT marathon last year, the goal was a sub 3:30hr. Pre-race average power was calculated to run sub 3:30. Race was run on power. You will see from the chart how constant I tried to keep my power on the flats, up hills and down to achieve the result apart from at the end where I put foot to make sure of the sub 3:30. Where there are hills, the pace dropping (blue line), but the power remaining constant. Similarly on the downhills, the pace increasing but power remaining the same.
  24. Yes there is a slight misunderstanding as Andy has pointed out. I think you are confusing constant pace over both a flat and hilly course where as I am saying that a constant power will achieve the same thing but be more efficient (burn less matches and keep HR down). If you want to run 10km in 1 hour being 6 mins/km. You know that this is 200w for you. Run averaging 200w on the flat you will finish in 1hr. Same with a hilly course and will expend the same energy as if running on the flat as you are averaging 200w over 10kms. By averaging 200w, you may be running at 6:30 min/km up the hill and 5:15min/km on a downhill. The pace changes, the power however is constant running averaging 200w. You will still be averaging 200w over a hilly course and finish the 10km in 1hr, the only difference is the pace varies but the power doesn't.
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