W@nna-BE Posted March 14, 2012 Share this is horrible news if true, shame poor wild animals, some ppl have no respect!SBR was going to be an integral part of my training to do a sub 3hr 94.7 + Argus ....... i myself keep all my GU and energy bar packs in my shirt pockets, gets sticky but would rather do that then liter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted March 14, 2012 Share I honestly and sincerely think the reason why the empty packet is littered is because of the mess the empty packet makes, like others mentioned above. Imagine you have two energy gels in your pocket, after using the first one and storing it the second one will be a royal mess with sticky gel all over your hands. Or storing the discarded gel in the wrong pocket and it leaks all over your mobile phone etc. Take away all of the negative aspects of storing the empty packet and then the incentive not to litter will be greater. Problem solved! With respect, those are the weakest excuses possible, the incentive to not litter is common sense, decency and just a bit of pride. slowpoke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted March 14, 2012 Share Hey, we often meet at the BP and ride through to the reserve.I go there once a month for 1 lap, the rest of the month i'm training to go there once a month for 1 lap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted March 14, 2012 Share The Saint posted soemthing similar many moons ago, but there was some substance to it. I think he was in contact with management at the time, if my recollection is correct. I recall management actually banning cyclists, and some hubbers (may have been the saint) getting in contact and smoothing things over with SBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted March 14, 2012 Share I recall management actually banning cyclists, and some hubbers (may have been the saint) getting in contact and smoothing things over with SBR Yeah, that rings a bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted March 14, 2012 Share I go there once a month for 1 lap, the rest of the month i'm training to go there once a month for 1 lap I go with some of the local "pro's" in early season base training, Dec/Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Yeah, that rings a bell. In my mind, Shaun was involved as well, but that might be the beer talking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delgado Posted March 14, 2012 Share ....been a long time coming!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agteros Posted March 14, 2012 Share Apparently the Otter Trail run was very littered after the race. If adventure/sports people dont have respect for the environment, we just are'nt going to have the free use of it in the end? Of all the places in J'burg, Suikerbos was probably the best for safety and good hill training... what a massive loss!! There is a running event on Wednesday in Suikerbosrand... anybody willing to go take snapshots on Thursday morning. Show that it is NOT only cyclists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny K Posted March 14, 2012 Share fkn roadies - cant take them anywhere I guess you ride a SS or hybrid - so you don't fit in either group? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivem Posted March 14, 2012 Share Difference between littering and not littering is class. You either have it or you dont. and it cant be bought at the PNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted March 14, 2012 Share Nice blame shift there. Are you an American?Dogs are not Ruminants. Plant-based food eating animals are. Things like cows, horses, deer etc. As for the blame shift, the guys could just not throw them on the floor all the time. And then recycle them when they get home. Don't blame the company itself for the problem, when it has nothing to do with it. Do you guys even read the posts?! I said we as cyclists ARE responsible, but maybe companies (which consists of individuals like you and me) should also be responsible? Phew, the Hub is tough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Do you guys even read the posts?! I said we as cyclists ARE responsible, but maybe companies (which consists of individuals like you and me) should also be responsible? Phew, the Hub is tough! Yeah, I read your post. It's like the american argument that the automobile manufacturer should be jointly liable if some dickwad driving it runs someone over. I appreciate that you say cyclists should take responsibility, but the other part is ludicrous. slowpoke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted March 14, 2012 Share Yeah, I read your post. It's like the american argument that the automobile manufacturer should be jointly liable if some dickwad driving it runs someone over. I appreciate that you say cyclists should take responsibility, but the other part is ludicrous. What a stupid argument. Using your analogy, the company is jointly liable if you use your gu sachet to kill someone. But automobile manufactureres are jointly responsible for the environmental damage they cause (which compares to Gu and littering) - why do you think they try to reduce emissions, develop electric cars, etc. At least they own up to their responsibility and try to do something about it. What has the Gu company said about all the products littering their road? If I was the CEO I would be very upset, number 1 that people litter with my product and 2 that a negative conotation is being created with the product. And then I'll try to solve it. Does this sound unreasonable?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted March 14, 2012 Share If I was the CEO I would be very upset, number 1 that people litter with my product and 2 that a negative conotation is being created with the product. And then I'll try to solve it. Does this sound unreasonable?! If was as passionate as you, I'd be writing letters to the CEO of the goo sachet making company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted March 14, 2012 Share I agree on the bit Andy said about companies needing to take some responsibility. Plastic bags, wrappers, plastic milk containers etc are all made to degrade a lot quicker now, shouldn't manufacturers take heed of this? Cyclists certainly need to take responsbility but we all know that only a small percentage will bother to do so. And its not limited to cyclists, I have seen litter in the Drakensburg, deep in the berg, ironically enough the same people who feel a urge to escape into nature are often the same ones who opt to damage the environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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