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I wonder if USADA will take Big George's away now that he admitted doping?

 

I'm guessing he's less stressed about niever winning Proubaix now. Probably would have lost it if he did...

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Leipheimer, Vande Velde, Zabriskie, Danielson, Barry and Hincapie suspended for six months

 

 

So USADA want Lance banned for life from everything and stripped of his titles but his team mates get 6 months?

 

I'm no fanboy but c'mon - 6 months for the others but life fukt proper for Lance? What was that word again? Ah yes. Witch hunyt. A rather specific with hunt in my opinion.

 

Eldron

 

I had the opportunity of reading both the report and the affidavits since they were released last night and it is expressly stated that LA was offered the same deal as the others for participating in the investigation but chose not take it.

 

I think it is a pity, because i found big George's statement very insightful and LA could have received the same (personal) absolution and slap on the wrist.

 

I'll try and find the specific reference and publish it.

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Eldron

 

I had the opportunity of reading both the report and the affidavits since they were released last night and it is expressly stated that LA was offered the same deal as the others for participating in the investigation but chose not take it.

 

I think it is a pity, because i found big George's statement very insightful and LA could have received the same (personal) absolution and slap on the wrist.

 

I'll try and find the specific reference and publish it.

 

Thanks but no worries - I'm over it now :-)

 

Ultimately I guess 6 months or life doesn't matter. Everyone gets to go home to their ill gotten gains and it's like nothing happened. They enjoyed the winning, the podium experience, the high life, the cash etc. So some record books were rewritten - who cares?

 

Business as usual. Lance even gets to rock the Speedo at non sanctioned tri events.

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I think history will judge Frank and Betsy as heroes in this, just shows how hard ti was to speak out.

 

http://d3epuodzu3wui...ge REDACTED.pdf

Not really,

Why did Frank only fess up to doping once his time was done, why did he even dope in the 1st place. When did Betsy know her husband was a doper, surely as he has claimed he doped for lengthy time she should have known and why then did she keep quiet.

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could have received the same (personal) absolution and slap on the wrist.

 

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Ahh thats the word i was looking for earlier

ABSOLUTION

*** idea, thats half the problem you humans are to soft

 

 

 

 

ab·so·lu·tion/ˌabsəˈlo͞oSHən/


  1.  
    Noun:
    • Formal release from guilt, obligation, or punishment.
    • An ecclesiastical declaration of forgiveness of sins.
       

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Sorry okies, I dont have the time to read through 108 pages of this BUT:

 

doesn't Lance have to pay back the money he won?

 

how is Lance accountable for the lives he's ruined through this? By this I mean, what about the guys who didn't win because he cheated...their life path was altered by his actions. They could have lost sponsorships, edorsements etc.

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Not really,

Why did Frank only fess up to doping once his time was done, why did he even dope in the 1st place. When did Betsy know her husband was a doper, surely as he has claimed he doped for lengthy time she should have known and why then did she keep quiet.

true, but they still said something when everyone else was tjoepstil. Hardly anyone else was prepared to speak out before or after retirement.

 

 

 

 

put "lance" into the search bar and pick 'titles only'.

 

you get a lot of hits on Lance xxxx (drugs/cheat/hero)

and

power baLANCE is a xxxx(scam/crock of **** etc. etc,)

 

and some real gems...like this collection of his quotes(i took the good ones here)

 

33 “His accusations aren’t good for cycling, for his team, for me, for anybody. If he thinks cycling works like that, he’s wrong and he would be better off going home.”

Responding to Christophe Bassons’ criticism of the doping culture in cycling during the 2000 Tour

 

31 “This is my body, and I can do whatever I want to it. I can push it, study it, tweak it; listen to it. Everybody wants to know what I am on. What am I on? I am on my bike busting my ass six hours a day. What are you on?”

Nike commercial, 2001

 

16 “What he did in 1989 and 1990 was phenomenal. But Greg’s not even worth talking about today. And I don’t need to hear from him – he’d only shove his foot farther down his mouth.”

On Greg LeMond, Playboy, June 2005

 

13 “Finally, the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the skeptics: I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. But this is one hell of a race. This is a great sporting event and you should stand around and believe it. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets — this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it. So Vive le Tour forever!”

On the Champs Elysées podium in 2005 having wrapped up a seventh Tour win and confirmed his retirement

 

 

 

11 “If you consider my situation: a guy who comes back from arguably, you know, a death sentence, why would I then enter into a sport and dope myself up and risk my life again? That's crazy. I would never do that. No. No way.”

Responding to L’Equipe’s accusations that he used EPO during the 1999 Tour on the Larry King Show in August 2005

 

 

8 “I’m here to fight this disease. You are not worth the chair that you’re sitting on with a statement like that with a disease that touches everybody around the world.”

Blasting Paul Kimmage at a press conference at the Tour of California in 2009 after The Sunday Times reporter had called Armstrong “the cancer in this sport” during a radio interview

 

 

 

 

5 “It’s our word against his word. I like our word. We like our credibility. Floyd lost his credibility a long time ago.”

In May 2010, responding to Landis’s accusations of systematic doping at the US Postal team

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