Eugene Oppelt Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Not a big week, TSS 467IF 0.9 I rolled a 400 something to with IF of 0,78. One cool ride though with 280 TSS at 0, 81 Steady steady
Patchelicious Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Week not done yet, but jock was TSS450 IF 0.93, TSS150 from midweek spins. Maybe I'll crank a little ride tomorrow too....Never went for that "postjock" ride, so stuck at 600
Jakkals. Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Never went for that "postjock" ride, so stuck at 600 Solid IF, so rather R&R
andydude Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Week not done yet, but jock was TSS450 IF 0.93, TSS150 from midweek spins. Maybe I'll crank a little ride tomorrow too.... Great IF! So how was your first Jock? And in VA too!
Patchelicious Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Great IF! So how was your first Jock? And in VA too!Was good, the VA group was only like 20 guys, and I wasn't keen to get dropped and solo the whole bloody thing, so I dropped back to AL....... only to end up TTing on my own most of the way anyway. Overall results not up yet, but looks like a top20 AL, happy with that. Will go update on the Jock thread. Was lekker though...
andydude Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 You can also use it on golden cheetah to manage TSB I installed Cheetah now, but they also seem to be using TRIMP? And how does TSB compare to TSS?
Patchelicious Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Food for thought: Stage 1 - TSS 138 IF 0.98, Stage 2 - TSS 147 IF 0.9, Stage 3 - TSS 165 IF 0.88.
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Food for thought: Stage 1 - TSS 138 IF 0.98, Stage 2 - TSS 147 IF 0.9, Stage 3 - TSS 165 IF 0.88. My quads hurt looking at that data
IdeJongh Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Last week, 650TSS with a comfy IF of 0.80 Had the best ride this morning, on study break but had to drop the car for a service, so stuck the bike in the back and took a ride home....... ......I might have accidentally stopped in at bike park for some singletrack!!
Patchelicious Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 My quads hurt looking at that dataYeah, and then, get this, I get a mail from my coach asking me why I was slacking! Kid you not! - " I went through your downloaded logs – you are riding really strong and almost a bit too conservatively! ....... I want you to start much harder next race – make sure you warm up well first, then really give it a good go – obviously I understand that it is group dependent as well" - sweet lord Too embarrassed to show the rest
davetapson Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 I installed Cheetah now, but they also seem to be using TRIMP? And how does TSB compare to TSS? I've run GC alongside TP for a little while. Seems that TRIMPS calculate out at about 1.7 TSS points. But it varies by a fair amount. This is estimated TSS i.e. using avg and max HR for TSS calcs.
Eugene Oppelt Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Yeah, and then, get this, I get a mail from my coach asking me why I was slacking! Kid you not! - " I went through your downloaded logs – you are riding really strong and almost a bit too conservatively! ....... I want you to start much harder next race – make sure you warm up well first, then really give it a good go – obviously I understand that it is group dependent as well" - sweet lord Too embarrassed to show the rest Get those rollers out next to the car, while sipping on a flask of mega-strong koffie
Boesman Benson Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Not a big week, TSS 467IF 0.9 Antonj - sorry for chirping in here. Use it if you want. May I suggest that you maybe check your FTP. You post almost weekly IF numbers around 0.9. That seems a bit high. Unless all your training sessions are super hard and almost races like, your FTP number is most probably off. If that is the case your TSS and other parameter etc will be skewed. Maybe schedule yourself another 20min suffer session and re-check. You might be stronger than you think you are .
obree Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Antonj - sorry for chirping in here. Use it if you want. May I suggest that you maybe check your FTP. You post almost weekly IF numbers around 0.9. That seems a bit high. Unless all your training sessions are super hard and almost races like, your FTP number is most probably off. If that is the case your TSS and other parameter etc will be skewed. Maybe schedule yourself another 20min suffer session and re-check. You might be stronger than you think you are . Have suggested this before on another posting, with similar high IF numbers, but seems guys are impressed with the high numbers. IMHO it is virtually impossible to get a weekly IF of 0.9 as it would imply riding at 90% of FTP every day, including warm up and cool down.
Jakkals. Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 Antonj - sorry for chirping in here. Use it if you want. May I suggest that you maybe check your FTP. You post almost weekly IF numbers around 0.9. That seems a bit high. Unless all your training sessions are super hard and almost races like, your FTP number is most probably off. If that is the case your TSS and other parameter etc will be skewed. Maybe schedule yourself another 20min suffer session and re-check. You might be stronger than you think you are . Will do FTP Test next week Tuesday and see, I'm a hond "poefie" timetrialist and dont expect to much from my FTP test. However, coming back to high IF. Most of my training is almost all out, almost everything on IDT. workouts per Andy Coggan's Training and racing with a powermeter. So all my workouts are based on FTP, so regardless of what your FTP is, you always gonna be in a specific zone relating to your FTP. Someone doing workout NP-W4 with a FTP of 210 and someone with a FTP of 280, will have exactly the same IF at the end of the workout. Doing these on the IDT doesnt really allow for much or any coasting to speak off. Have suggested this before on another posting, with similar high IF numbers, but seems guys are impressed with the high numbers. IMHO it is virtually impossible to get a weekly IF of 0.9 as it would imply riding at 90% of FTP every day, including warm up and cool down. You suggested that my FTP is to high
andydude Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 Mick Rogers winning stage file loaded on Training Peaks. 415TSS, 150mi, 6,828kJ, 9,594ft climbing, 6.5hrs, peak 20min = 6.09w/kg!
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