Patchelicious Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Since my ankle issue I've had some catching up to do. Week 1 - 522Week 2 - 527Week 3 - 701Week 4 - 723Week 5 - 644Week 7 - 691Week 8 - 965Week 9 - 584Week 10 (this last week) - 981 Thats what it took to get my CTL back to where it was before taking 2 weeks off the bike....
andydude Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 hmmmmm I just noticed you're talking about TSShr... Might be wrong, as I know TSS based on power/FTP/wattage is calc as per my response. GYes, I guess that makes it a bit more tricky. Do you perhaps have a few real examples if you use both power and heart rate? I understand heart rate is more variable with same power which stays constant for same power. But does the heart rate variability kind of average out? I hope my question makes sense.
andydude Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Since my ankle issue at I've had some catching up to do. Week 1 - 522Week 2 - 527Week 3 - 701Week 4 - 723Week 5 - 644Week 7 - 691Week 8 - 965Week 9 - 584Week 10 (this last week) - 981 Thats what it took to get my CTL back to where it from taking 2 weeks off the bike....Thanks patches! Great example of how quickly we lose fitness and how long it takes to build up again. If I may ask, what is your current CTL? And I guess your TSB is quite negative?!
Spinnekop Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Since my ankle issue at I've had some catching up to do. Week 1 - 522Week 2 - 527Week 3 - 701Week 4 - 723Week 5 - 644Week 7 - 691Week 8 - 965Week 9 - 584Week 10 (this last week) - 981 Thats what it took to get my CTL back to where it was before taking 2 weeks off the bike....Bliksem.That is some proper riding!
Spinnekop Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Thanks patches! Great example of how quickly we lose fitness and how long it takes to build up again. If I may ask, what is your current CTL? And I guess your TSB is quite negative?!By calculation, taking a period of 10 weeks, CTL will be around 90 Taking just the past 42 days, CTL of 109 Serious stuff.
Patchelicious Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Thanks patches! Great example of how quickly we lose fitness and how long it takes to build up again. If I may ask, what is your current CTL? And I guess your TSB is quite negative?!CTL is 102 TSB is -42
BDF Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 CTL is 102 TSB is -424kit Patch, That's impressive!
jcza Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 I think one needs TSS of 700 per week to maintain
Patchelicious Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Now I'm tired, this week will be very low as will next week with the Shova and Bestmed Sattelite Classic. Then its back to big blocks for DC and Desert Dash. I hate how quickly CTL drops and how hard it is to get it back up again http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss153/Patch-elicious/TSS_zpsnwh3jyfw.png
RocknRolla Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 I certainly dont have the numbers to post in this thread
andydude Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 hmmmmm I just noticed you're talking about TSShr... Might be wrong, as I know TSS based on power/FTP/wattage is calc as per my response. GYes, I guess that makes it a bit more tricky. Do you perhaps have a few real examples if you use both power and heart rate? I understand heart rate is more variable with same power which stays constant for same power. But does the heart rate variability kind of average out? I hope my question makes sense.I found another formula to calculate TSS from heart rate and it creates quite big differences! Previously I used "TriBlogs", but you can see how it differs from the new "Mahoney" formula. Those that use their own TSS from heart rate formula, what formula do you use?
awesme Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Patches, what your average time on the bike/day/week ? G Since my ankle issue at I've had some catching up to do. Week 1 - 522Week 2 - 527Week 3 - 701Week 4 - 723Week 5 - 644Week 7 - 691Week 8 - 965Week 9 - 584Week 10 (this last week) - 981 Thats what it took to get my CTL back to where it was before taking 2 weeks off the bike....
awesme Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 I mostly know the Power meter stuff as I use a Kickr + TrainerRoad for my training. Looking t HR, I don't have ay trust in it anymore... I know my fitness level is allot higher than my wifes, we'll do exactly the same workout on TR, her HR will be 130-145 and mine will be 175-180. She's 6 yrs younger than me... I'll have a look if Coggan's or Friel's book have something about HR and TSS and let you know. G Yes, I guess that makes it a bit more tricky. Do you perhaps have a few real examples if you use both power and heart rate? I understand heart rate is more variable with same power which stays constant for same power. But does the heart rate variability kind of average out? I hope my question makes sense.
Patchelicious Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Patches, what your average time on the bike/day/week ? GBetween 12-15 hours, 5 to 6 rides a week.
awesme Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 ok, that then makes it make sense.so thats a TSS 50-65 average/hour.My limiting thing is available hours... running around 250-280 /week atm on trainer and then anther 150-200 over the wknd depending what I get to do.G Between 12-15 hours, 5 to 6 rides a week.
awesme Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 What I'm finding. How to Calculate TSS.http://home.trainingpeaks.com/blog/article/normalized-power,-intensity-factor-training-stress http://home.trainingpeaks.com/blog/article/estimating-training-stress-score-tss http://help.trainingpeaks.com/hc/en-us/articles/204071944-Training-Stress-Scores-ExplainedHeart Rate Training Stress Score (hrTSS)Applicable Workout Types: All workout typesAccuracy Level: hrTSS is quite accurate with steady state effort workouts, but is less accurate for workouts with highly fluctuating efforts. hrTSS will only be used if there is not enough data to calculate TSS, rTSS, or sTSS, and the below requirements to calculate are met.Requirements to Calculate: Workout time series heart rate data, user threshold heart rate (entered in heart rate zones)What is hrTSS? Heart Rate Training Stress Score (hrTSS) is based on time in heart rate zones (based on users lactate threshold heart rate), and is not as accurate as Powermeter based TSS or running pace baced rTSS. TrainingPeaks uses the table found in the article below for calculating heart rate training stress score: http://home.trainingpeaks.com/blog/article/what-is-tss G
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